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Old 22 November 2024, 09:18 PM   #1
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Tudor 7019/4 Jumbo

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I am about to buy my third Tudor Jumbo (yes, I like them that much!).

I have the 7017/0 Grey dial, 7019/3 White dial and I am looking to add 7019/4 Blue dial.

I didn't had the chance to inspect it in person but looking at the pictures, all looks ok to me.

My knowledge about this watches is far more limited than the knowledge of some people here on the Vintage forum, so feedback on the watch period correct elements and it's condition will be very much appreciated!

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Ps. I cannot judge well from these photos but the caseback writing seems shallow/over polished.

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Old 22 November 2024, 11:12 PM   #2
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I don't see anything that stands out as a red flag. Hope this one makes it three for you!

I loved my 7020/0 w/ rotating bezel. But even the best watchmakers in the biz couldn't get the watch to work due to the Achilles Heal of the AC Shields moment, the canon pinion.
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Old 23 November 2024, 12:38 AM   #3
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I don't see anything that stands out as a red flag. Hope this one makes it three for you!



I loved my 7020/0 w/ rotating bezel. But even the best watchmakers in the biz couldn't get the watch to work due to the Achilles Heal of the AC Shields moment, the canon pinion.

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That 7020 is beautiful! I know that I will get one someday. :)

Have you considered at one point sourcing the parts from another AS 1895 movement?
That pinion canon perhaps could have been replaced?

I serviced my both Tudors at the local AD, at that time didn't receive any news if this issue is present. Do you know if there is a way to observe it on the watch before I pull the trigger?

The bracelet also looks good. I believe the 7020 are coming only on oyster bracelet, from where did you source the jubilee?

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Old 23 November 2024, 12:57 AM   #4
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That 7020 is beautiful! I know that I will get one someday. :)

Have you considered at one point sourcing the parts from another AS 1895 movement?
That pinion canon perhaps could have been replaced?

I serviced my both Tudors at the local AD, at that time didn't receive any news if this issue is present. Do you know if there is a way to observe it on the watch before I pull the trigger?

The bracelet also looks good. I believe the 7020 are coming only on oyster bracelet, from where did you source the jubilee?

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I had the canon pinion adjusted and then replaced but the tension would not hold which kept the hands from moving even though the movement itself was working. It spent more time on watchmakers benches than on my wrist. I sold it to a guy in Canada who was buying a couple to get one complete watch.

It's been so long I can't remember where I got the jubilee bracelet from. Pretty sure Tudor & Rolex allowed any bracelet preference at the time. I bought the watch head only and sourced a correct Oyster but wanted the jubilee option as well.
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Old 23 November 2024, 06:14 AM   #5
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looks fine to me...one over-long spring bar, but a non-issue....
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Old 23 November 2024, 06:15 AM   #6
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I don't see anything that stands out as a red flag. Hope this one makes it three for you!

I loved my 7020/0 w/ rotating bezel. But even the best watchmakers in the biz couldn't get the watch to work due to the Achilles Heal of the AC Shields moment, the canon pinion.
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that is nice...
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Old 23 November 2024, 07:12 AM   #7
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Looks like a great choice. I'm wearing a relative today.

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Fantastic! Smooth bezel, grey DD on my list!
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Old 23 November 2024, 09:38 PM   #9
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Looks like a great choice. I'm wearing a relative today.

Looks fantastic!

I've always liked the 7020s. The Jumbos are relatively rare watches but 7020 with blue or black dial is even more hard to find.

I've read somewhere that the case size being 38 is identical to the 4th generation Rolex Milgauss, but never seen a direct comparison. Is this correct? I would love to have access to more information resources regarding the vintage Tudors

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Old 23 November 2024, 09:44 PM   #10
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Fantastic! Smooth bezel, grey DD on my list!
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that is nice...
Thanks, Paul! Wish I still had it.
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Love the 38mm jumbo's!

I used to have three and am now down to two. Will probably sell them too as I am trying to downsize.




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Looks fantastic!

I've always liked the 7020s. The Jumbos are relatively rare watches but 7020 with blue or black dial is even more hard to find.

I've read somewhere that the case size being 38 is identical to the 4th generation Rolex Milgauss, but never seen a direct comparison. Is this correct? I would love to have access to more information resources regarding the vintage Tudors

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They are similar size but not identical.
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That's not helping! Lovely!!
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Love the 38mm jumbo's!

I used to have three and am now down to two. Will probably sell them too as I am trying to downsize.




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Really like the Cotton Bowl Classic. I was at that same game when I was a kid…
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There it is!
The dial and hands are in excellent shape. The movement likely will need servicing.

Now I need to find a proper bracelet or strap. Unfortunately the original Rolex bracelets of these watches are long gone, likely sold separately.

The full trio in the last picture. Now I need a jubilee or better yet a presidential style bracelet. I will be looking also at the aftermarket options.

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Thats awesome!!




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On a 76200 bracelet. The endings are made to fit 36mm case so there is some play and rattle but I like the look with the original Tudor five link bracelet.


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On a 76200 bracelet. The endings are made to fit 36mm case so there is some play and rattle but I like the look with the original Tudor five link bracelet.


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That bracelet looks FANTASTIC on that watch.
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