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zillap · 18 April 2010, 04:09 PM

Hi.

I have a question about the Tudor and Rolex history.

Did or do Rolex manufacture Tudors watches? Is it the same bracelet on the submariners?

Same movement?

Give me the story:)

OYSTERMANN · 18 April 2010, 04:20 PM

I'm sure that Dan Pierce will come back on this - he has a stunning collection and he has a great knowledge on all matters Tudor

zillap · 18 April 2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OYSTERMANN

I'm sure that Dan Pierce will come back on this - he has a stunning collection and he has a great knowledge on all matters Tudor

Yes, thats where it all started. When i saw his wonderful pictures!

I also found awatch named Rolex and model Tudor something on the internet.
The caseback said Rolex, and it looked like it had exactly the same oyster bracelet as Rolex has..

multimedia · 18 April 2010, 04:39 PM

I have linked to these two ones before, and they are a pretty good read.

The History of Rolex Tudor Watches

What are Tudor watches?

Cheers,
Joe

OYSTERMANN · 18 April 2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by multimedia

I have linked to these two ones before, and they are a pretty good read.

The History of Rolex Tudor Watches

What are Tudor watches?

Cheers,
Joe

Joe, two great links - very informative and some great photos on the first one.

Thanks for the info

zillap · 18 April 2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by multimedia

I have linked to these two ones before, and they are a pretty good read.

The History of Rolex Tudor Watches

What are Tudor watches?

Cheers,
Joe

Thank you Joe.

Really nice links!

padi56 · 18 April 2010, 07:08 PM

Hans Wilsdorf RWC first opened Tudor watch production in 1946. And one of the main reasons why he chose the brand name Tudor. Was that he wanted to pay tribute to the Tudor history period of old England.

The Tudor line prior to around 1990 was all Rolex except for movement,and the only step down in quality is the price.Then the main difference Tudor used a top range Chronometer grade ETA a first class all in-house built movement, in watches like the Tudor Prince they used a light Oyster on Subs they used the heavy Oyster bracelet.Now today the Tudor line has quite a heritage with Hans Wilsdorf the founder of Rolex.

In todays market quite a few vintage Tudor watches command higher prices than there Rolex brothers.The Tudor line are still made in the same now highly automated factory as Rolex.While now would agree the Aeronaut,Hydronaut range are not quite as good as the Oyster cased ones but its still very very close.Tudor are still a very important part of the Rolex history,and quite a few countries chose the Tudor Subs for military use instead of its Rolex brother. Because they passed all there very demanding tests.The Tudor range IMHO are rightfully part of the Rolex line up and history in the RWC

Dan Pierce · 18 April 2010, 09:40 PM

Great info above.

I'll just add Tudor produced versions of watches Rolex did not such as blue stainless steel and "snowflake" style dialed Subs, chronos w/ exotic dials and date feature, and "jumbo" sized stainless steel DD's and DJ's. Finding these vintage examples w/ Rolex crowns, cases, and bracelets is a real treat.

dP

zillap · 18 April 2010, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Hans Wilsdorf RWC first opened Tudor watch production in 1946. And one of the main reasons why he chose the brand name Tudor. Was that he wanted to pay tribute to the Tudor history period of old England.

The Tudor line prior to around 1990 was all Rolex except for movement,and the only step down in quality is the price.Then the main difference Tudor used a top range Chronometer grade ETA a first class all in-house built movement, in watches like the Tudor Prince they used a light Oyster on Subs they used the heavy Oyster bracelet.Now today the Tudor line has quite a heritage with Hans Wilsdorf the founder of Rolex.

In todays market quite a few vintage Tudor watches command higher prices than there Rolex brothers.The Tudor line are still made in the same now highly automated factory as Rolex.While now would agree the Aeronaut,Hydronaut range are not quite as good as the Oyster cased ones but its still very very close.Tudor are still a very important part of the Rolex history,and quite a few countries chose the Tudor Subs for military use instead of its Rolex brother. Because they passed all there very demanding tests.The Tudor range IMHO are rightfully part of the Rolex line up and history in the RWC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Great info above.

I'll just add Tudor produced versions of watches Rolex did not such as blue stainless steel and "snowflake" style dialed Subs, chronos w/ exotic dials and date feature, and "jumbo" sized stainless steel DD's and DJ's. Finding these vintage examples w/ Rolex crowns, cases, and bracelets is a real treat.

dP

Thank you both! Really nice info!

Dan; Ive heard about your collection. Want to post a family picture?

Jackxv · 18 April 2010, 10:45 PM

Hans Wilsdorf chased the brand of Tudor for about 30 years.

The brand was registered by another party.

Maybe Tudor was meant to be the Rolex now but he couldn't get grip on the brand name.

Jack

Dan Pierce · 18 April 2010, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zillap

Thank you both! Really nice info!

Dan; Ive heard about your collection. Want to post a family picture?

My pleasure, mate!

3 chronos, a Sub, and jumbo Date + Day.

dP

OYSTERMANN · 18 April 2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

My pleasure, mate!

3 chronos, a Sub, and jumbo Date + Day.

dP

They really are fabulous, Dan

Dan Pierce · 18 April 2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OYSTERMANN

They really are fabulous, Dan

Thanks, Neil!

dP

OYSTERMANN · 18 April 2010, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

Thanks, Neil!

dP

You're welcome, Dan - just wait until zillap sees them all!

By the way, the Tiger looks amazing

gmaines · 19 April 2010, 09:15 AM

very nice watches, I Love mine

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