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Ptaha67 · 21 January 2020, 05:35 PM

Hey guys hoping to pick your brain on this one please.

A friend of mine has an opportunity to purchase this at an AD.

He has been told that the watch is ultra rare and there were only very few that are made every year.

It is white gold sapphires and diamonds.

What might you think is a good price for this?

Do you think this is a good watch to hold?

Personally a Submariner with gems in it is not my cup of tea at all. I wear a TT sub. However I am trying to help my friend here to make a decision. He does like the watch. Hoping to see what you guys might say.

Thank you!

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365DAS · 21 January 2020, 05:41 PM

If he likes it then he should get it.

I’ve got a gem set GMT and whilst the talk of “rarity” was used also, wasn’t the reason for me buying it.

I’ve normally steered away from gem set watches (like DJ) but with these I guess it’s a little different as the watches are that little more exclusive.

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GB-man · 21 January 2020, 06:11 PM

If you want to play Hollywood it’s one of the more tasteful ways to do so.

HogwldFLTR · 21 January 2020, 06:41 PM

Not my style so, no. If it's your friends style then maybe, yes, for him.

Yess · 21 January 2020, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

If you want to play Hollywood

I like this way of referring to it

schoolboy · 21 January 2020, 11:48 PM

If he likes it, and can afford it without putting the mortgage at risk, why not!!

I do think that these factory gem set pieces are rarer than a SS Daytona, but I wouldn’t know if it is a good investment that he should “buy and hold”

I’ve seen a few auctions from Phillips, and I’ve seen 16610lvs and Patek 5711s sell for a premium, but I personally haven’t seen one of these gem set watches sell yet

Which to me is kind of odd

So idk if they sell for a premium or not

But who knows!

padi56 · 21 January 2020, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Not my style so, no. If it's your friends style then maybe, yes, for him.

Have to agree myself would not wear it if given to me free,and with most all of these types of watches if paid retail will loose quite a bit as soon as you leave the ADs store .

enjoythemusic · 21 January 2020, 11:57 PM

If he likes it then he should get it.

Duey · 22 January 2020, 01:20 AM

Guys lets be honest here to his question - "Do you think this is a good watch to hold?" Absolutely NOT !! No No No
And it's got the wrong dial for a white gold Sub too so it's probably a fake.

cerendigit · 22 January 2020, 01:25 AM

Stay away.

trfChris · 22 January 2020, 01:55 AM

It’s a cool piece if you’re into gem-set Rolex. I think user archer1021 on this forum has one. So tell your friend to go for it if he loves that look but I don’t think it will be a piece that will hold value particularly well.

WatchLurv · 22 January 2020, 01:58 AM

This piece goes for a Premium, so how is this not a good buy & hold piece if he's getting it for MSRP?

Tools · 22 January 2020, 02:03 AM

That watch is not White Gold, and the gems are fakes.

No, it isn't a watch to have, nor it is likely available at an AD.

Ptaha67 · 22 January 2020, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

That watch is not White Gold, and the gems are fakes.

No, it isn't a watch to have, nor it is likely available at an AD.

This is a piece available at an ad with box and papers. Just FYI.

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mulgogy · 22 January 2020, 02:45 AM

SABR!! Awesome piece!

Tangier11 · 22 January 2020, 02:46 AM

I actually like it. And I have heard that many of these blinged out watches actually go UP in value. Rainbow Daytona for example.

mulgogy · 22 January 2020, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

That watch is not White Gold, and the gems are fakes.

No, it isn't a watch to have, nor it is likely available at an AD.

Ref: 116659 SABR

These are factory, off catalog pieces.

envuks · 22 January 2020, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

That watch is not White Gold, and the gems are fakes.

No, it isn't a watch to have, nor it is likely available at an AD.

Out of curiosity, what are you basing this statement on? You sound pretty confident.....

Gary Busey · 22 January 2020, 02:51 AM

If he’s a pimp tell him to do it

Tangier11 · 22 January 2020, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

That watch is not White Gold, and the gems are fakes.

No, it isn't a watch to have, nor it is likely available at an AD.

The dial does not look like a "smurf" dial. But I cant tell if the gems are fake from the pic. How can you tell?

schoolboy · 22 January 2020, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tangier11

I actually like it. And I have heard that many of these blinged out watches actually go UP in value. Rainbow Daytona for example.

That’s what I would think, but who knows?

I’m assuming 50 years from now, there will be 15 at an auction, and MAYBE one of these gem set watches

Right?

schoolboy · 22 January 2020, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tangier11

The dial does not look like a "smurf" dial. But I cant tell if the gems are fake from the pic. How can you tell?

X2

Ferdelious · 22 January 2020, 03:04 AM

This watch is definitely real and definitely factory. If he likes it and has the means I would buy it in a heartbeat.

kiwi71 · 22 January 2020, 03:05 AM

Marky Mark’s got one of them.

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Pantheon · 22 January 2020, 03:11 AM

Looks great. If he has the means go for it

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GolfJunkie · 22 January 2020, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tangier11

The dial does not look like a "smurf" dial. But I cant tell if the gems are fake from the pic. How can you tell?

This reference doesn't have the same dial as the "smurf" it has a sunburst dial.

Tools · 22 January 2020, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by envuks

Out of curiosity, what are you basing this statement on? You sound pretty confident.....

The 116659 SABR mock on a SS is all over e-bay, not to mention the rep market.

The OP has a story about a friend with a "deal" on a $110,000 watch and asks what a "good price" would be, with a picture on a standard box cuff.

But you're right... perhaps I am too skeptical... maybe not so much the watch, but the story.

Tangier11 · 22 January 2020, 03:26 AM

Factory set gems would be the key as far as value goes. There are real Daytonas with NON factory gems to make it look like a Rainbow that have prob less value than a basic Daytona whereas the real Rainbow is priced wayyy above MSRP

WatchLurv · 22 January 2020, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

The 116659 SABR mock on a SS is all over e-bay, not to mention the rep market.

The OP has a story about a friend with a "deal" on a $110,000 watch and asks what a "good price" would be, with a picture on a standard box cuff.

But you're right... perhaps I am too skeptical... maybe not so much the watch, but the story.

If he's buying from one of the ADs that don't play by the rules, this watch may not be going for the MSRP, hence he's asking what's a "fair" price to pay if that means above MSRP.

The stickers are on the watch too. Don't see many reps or aftermarkets with that on

Rado63 · 22 January 2020, 04:43 AM

If it's a real 116659 SABR then the problem is what to pay for it. I have never seen a published MSRP, and this doesn't appear in the main catalog. There is a second catalog with these Gem Set pieces. It's definitely rare, but I don't know how rare. 50 pieces, 500 pieces, 1000 pieces? If I had the money to spend, I would wear this.

21 January 2020, 05:35 PM	#1
Ptaha67 Banned Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Vancouver Posts: 37	Gem Set Submariner Question. Hey guys hoping to pick your brain on this one please. A friend of mine has an opportunity to purchase this at an AD. He has been told that the watch is ultra rare and there were only very few that are made every year. It is white gold sapphires and diamonds. What might you think is a good price for this? Do you think this is a good watch to hold? Personally a Submariner with gems in it is not my cup of tea at all. I wear a TT sub. However I am trying to help my friend here to make a decision. He does like the watch. Hoping to see what you guys might say. Thank you! Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

21 January 2020, 06:11 PM	#3
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,866	If you want to play Hollywood it’s one of the more tasteful ways to do so. __________________

21 January 2020, 06:41 PM	#4
HogwldFLTR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: What's on my wrist Posts: 33,256	Not my style so, no. If it's your friends style then maybe, yes, for him. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

21 January 2020, 11:57 PM	#8
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,456	If he likes it then he should get it. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

22 January 2020, 02:03 AM	#13
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,050	That watch is not White Gold, and the gems are fakes. No, it isn't a watch to have, nor it is likely available at an AD. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

21 January 2020, 05:41 PM	#2
365DAS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: RD Location: UK Posts: 629	If he likes it then he should get it. I’ve got a gem set GMT and whilst the talk of “rarity” was used also, wasn’t the reason for me buying it. I’ve normally steered away from gem set watches (like DJ) but with these I guess it’s a little different as the watches are that little more exclusive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21 January 2020, 11:48 PM	#6
schoolboy Banned Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Jesus Location: Texas Watch: 116234 Posts: 8,721	If he likes it, and can afford it without putting the mortgage at risk, why not!! I do think that these factory gem set pieces are rarer than a SS Daytona, but I wouldn’t know if it is a good investment that he should “buy and hold” I’ve seen a few auctions from Phillips, and I’ve seen 16610lvs and Patek 5711s sell for a premium, but I personally haven’t seen one of these gem set watches sell yet Which to me is kind of odd So idk if they sell for a premium or not But who knows!

22 January 2020, 01:20 AM	#9
Duey 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Duey Location: Maui Watch: Too Many To List Posts: 3,575	Guys lets be honest here to his question - "Do you think this is a good watch to hold?" Absolutely NOT !! No No No And it's got the wrong dial for a white gold Sub too so it's probably a fake.

22 January 2020, 01:25 AM	#10
cerendigit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Seattle Watch: Casio digital Posts: 1,076	Stay away.

22 January 2020, 01:55 AM	#11
trfChris "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Chris Location: East Coast US Watch: Rolex 116719BLRO Posts: 489	It’s a cool piece if you’re into gem-set Rolex. I think user archer1021 on this forum has one. So tell your friend to go for it if he loves that look but I don’t think it will be a piece that will hold value particularly well.

22 January 2020, 01:58 AM	#12
WatchLurv Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270	This piece goes for a Premium, so how is this not a good buy & hold piece if he's getting it for MSRP?

22 January 2020, 02:45 AM	#15
mulgogy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: New England Watch: Rollies Posts: 224	SABR!! Awesome piece!

22 January 2020, 02:46 AM	#16
Tangier11 Banned Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Paul Location: Southern Virginia Watch: ROLEX Posts: 2,544	I actually like it. And I have heard that many of these blinged out watches actually go UP in value. Rainbow Daytona for example.

22 January 2020, 02:51 AM	#19
Gary Busey "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Pothole Watch: Tudor Black Bay Posts: 890	If he’s a pimp tell him to do it __________________ Tudor Black Bay Red Rose ETA Rolex 214270 Explorer 1 Tudor BB 41 Blue Dial Doxa Sub 200, SKX009 Aquastar Deepstar

22 January 2020, 03:04 AM	#23
Ferdelious 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Matt Location: Tampa, FL Watch: Hulk/SD4K/SeaQ/P39 Posts: 3,178	This watch is definitely real and definitely factory. If he likes it and has the means I would buy it in a heartbeat. __________________ Why is it, "A penny for your thoughts," but, "you have to put your two cents in?" Somebody's making a penny.

22 January 2020, 03:05 AM	#24
kiwi71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: World Watch: 116610LV Posts: 82	Marky Mark’s got one of them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 January 2020, 03:11 AM	#25
Pantheon Banned Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Ritchie Location: NYC & LI Watch: VC and AP Posts: 580	Looks great. If he has the means go for it Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk

22 January 2020, 03:26 AM	#28
Tangier11 Banned Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Paul Location: Southern Virginia Watch: ROLEX Posts: 2,544	Factory set gems would be the key as far as value goes. There are real Daytonas with NON factory gems to make it look like a Rainbow that have prob less value than a basic Daytona whereas the real Rainbow is priced wayyy above MSRP

22 January 2020, 04:43 AM	#30
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	If it's a real 116659 SABR then the problem is what to pay for it. I have never seen a published MSRP, and this doesn't appear in the main catalog. There is a second catalog with these Gem Set pieces. It's definitely rare, but I don't know how rare. 50 pieces, 500 pieces, 1000 pieces? If I had the money to spend, I would wear this. __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

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