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Stros1965 · 11 October 2017, 01:58 AM

I am looking to buy a milestone piece for myself and I have it narrowed down to two options.

Currently for dress watches I have a stainless JLC master ultra thin moon REF. 1368420 & a Cartier Ronde Louis Cartier REF: WGRN0006.

I really love both of these watches and have tried on both in person. I can't seem to talk myself out of either. Maybe some of you have a little knowledge and history with either of these great pieces that can help me make up my mind.

Lange 1815 annual calendar

F.P. Journe Chronometre Souverain

Thanks

Hairdude1 · 11 October 2017, 02:12 AM

I like both, which do you prefer more?

lapince · 11 October 2017, 02:22 AM

Lange in this case

Stros1965 · 11 October 2017, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lapince

Lange in this case

For what reasoning exactly? Pure aesthetics, the movement, the name in general?

Andrés G · 11 October 2017, 02:53 AM

I prefer the Journe. Truth be told, I don’t think I would buy either of them if I were looking for a watch in that price point.

Stros1965 · 11 October 2017, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrés G

I prefer the Journe. Truth be told, I don’t think I would buy either of them if I were looking for a watch in that price point.

What would you be looking at in the 35-40k price range?

tyler1980 · 11 October 2017, 03:36 AM

Of the two i would get the FPJ, as the annual calendar is a bit busy for me. If it was the 1815 Chrono, then Lange by a mile.

I really can't get on board with a manual wind annual calendar. Plus i don't even think it has a power reserve indicator, and resetting it all the time would be a hassle. My least favorite thing to do is to reset the moon phase on my 5712 as i can't stand it when its not accurate. I keep it on a winder because of this and its only a date and moon phase. Not an option with the Lange.

Stros1965 · 11 October 2017, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

Of the two i would get the FPJ, as the annual calendar is a bit busy for me. If it was the 1815 Chrono, then Lange by a mile.

I really can't get on board with a manual wind annual calendar. Plus i don't even think it has a power reserve indicator. Resetting it all the time would be a hassle.

Good point about the manual wind! What do you think of the Lange 1 MP? It can be had for about the same price as these two

tyler1980 · 11 October 2017, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DRLacaze

Good point about the manual wind! What do you think of the Lange 1 MP? It can be had for about the same price as these two

I really like the Lange 1 but the moon phase would also be a pain to reset, but the up down indicator on that one helps though. I would get the Lange 1 MP before the 1815 AC as i think its much more unique looking and less cluttered.

lapince · 11 October 2017, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DRLacaze

For what reasoning exactly? Pure aesthetics, the movement, the name in general?

Prefer the design and you have AC plus moon phase, I would choose this one, but between a time only Lange and the Chrono Bleu I would choose the FPJ

koz123 · 11 October 2017, 04:37 AM

of the two, I'd go ALS

mps354 · 11 October 2017, 05:46 AM

both are nice, i prefer lange

MJaber · 11 October 2017, 05:59 AM

Not really a fan of these exact models. My preference for your budget would be the new Lange 1 Moon Phase in white gold/ black dial. The asymmetrical dial layout with that breathtaking day/night disc which is separate from the moon disc and the iconic Lange outsize date is the stuff dreams(mine?) are made of!

That being said, if i had to choose between the two models you've posted id certainly go with the Lange. All Journe designs seem a bit cartoonish to me. Also, movement and overall finishing on a lange beats a Journe any day (my personal observation).

I'm posting wrist shots of the Journe you are interested in and the Lange 1 MP.

Stros1965 · 11 October 2017, 08:30 AM

Thanks for the comments and ideas, gang. I have contacted my AD and I am going with a Lange 1 MP in white gold with the black dial and couldn't be more excited

I go to pick it up on Saturday. Pictures to follow.

Stros1965 · 11 October 2017, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MJaber

Not really a fan of these exact models. My preference for your budget would be the new Lange 1 Moon Phase in white gold/ black dial. The asymmetrical dial layout with that breathtaking day/night disc which is separate from the moon disc and the iconic Lange outsize date is the stuff dreams(mine?) are made of!

That being said, if i had to choose between the two models you've posted id certainly go with the Lange. All Journe designs seem a bit cartoonish to me. Also, movement and overall finishing on a lange beats a Journe any day (my personal observation).

I'm posting wrist shots of the Journe you are interested in and the Lange 1 MP.

That Lange is beautiful. Your picture is what sold me.

Defiancekofb · 11 October 2017, 08:38 AM

I was looking into Lange, when I found the FP Journe Octa Automatique Lune, a stunning watch and then I saw the gold movement, I decided FP Journe it is.

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GB-man · 11 October 2017, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DRLacaze

Thanks for the comments and ideas, gang. I have contacted my AD and I am going with a Lange 1 MP in white gold with the black dial and couldn't be more excited

I go to pick it up on Saturday. Pictures to follow.

huge congratulations

That's a knockout piece.

tng11 · 11 October 2017, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DRLacaze

Thanks for the comments and ideas, gang. I have contacted my AD and I am going with a Lange 1 MP in white gold with the black dial and couldn't be more excited

I go to pick it up on Saturday. Pictures to follow.

Amazing. Congratulations!

The new MP is a true winner with that day/night moonphase upgrade. It's these little improvements and the constant desire to do things better that I love about Lange. Although I must say Journe's genius with gold dials and gold movements also has me drooling.

Peterandwatches · 11 October 2017, 11:42 AM

Black Lange 1 with moon - perfection.

DaveChapin · 11 October 2017, 02:26 PM

I’ve been waiting for my lange 1 moon phase for three months. Pick up is still 1.5 months away

MJaber · 11 October 2017, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DRLacaze

That Lange is beautiful. Your picture is what sold me.

Congrats! excellent choice! May you wear it in the best of health!

Andrés G · 11 October 2017, 02:49 PM

I wish I could decide as easily as you. Congrats ��

regnant · 11 October 2017, 03:12 PM

A Lange Sohne gets another vote from me ;)

mickyd329 · 11 October 2017, 04:16 PM

Congrats. You made a good choice.

tyler1980 · 11 October 2017, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mickyd329

Congrats. You made a good choice.

+1

wach16 · 12 October 2017, 11:16 AM

Personally I would choose the Lange between the two. More complicated and IMO, you can't beat the Lange finishing

AK797 · 13 October 2017, 03:38 AM

Lange for sure, I was going to say bite the bullet and just go for the Zeitwerk but I see sanity prevailed. CIA.

rossi46 · 13 October 2017, 07:15 AM

So happy about your choice! The new L1 MP with black dial is simply stunning and right at the top of my list as a leather strap watch that can easily be worn as a daily (i.e. not a pure dress watch).

Can't wait to see pics. Congrats!

rfatm3f · 13 October 2017, 09:50 AM

In theory I’m all about fpj. I looked at a chronometre Blue and fell in love with the movement. Then I tried it on. I wasn’t in love with the thickness of the strap and the way it mates with the watch.

I much prefer my lange 1.

YMMV

JayG · 14 October 2017, 06:34 PM

Congrats on the Lange, amazing watch!

For me its Francois Paul Journe, the true iconoclast

11 October 2017, 02:12 AM	#2
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11 October 2017, 03:36 AM	#7
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	Of the two i would get the FPJ, as the annual calendar is a bit busy for me. If it was the 1815 Chrono, then Lange by a mile. I really can't get on board with a manual wind annual calendar. Plus i don't even think it has a power reserve indicator, and resetting it all the time would be a hassle. My least favorite thing to do is to reset the moon phase on my 5712 as i can't stand it when its not accurate. I keep it on a winder because of this and its only a date and moon phase. Not an option with the Lange. __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

11 October 2017, 04:37 AM	#11
koz123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Anthony Location: NYC Posts: 445	of the two, I'd go ALS __________________ Instagram- Watchwithme

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11 October 2017, 02:22 AM	#3
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Lange in this case

11 October 2017, 02:53 AM	#5
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,391	I prefer the Journe. Truth be told, I don’t think I would buy either of them if I were looking for a watch in that price point.

11 October 2017, 05:46 AM	#12
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,971	both are nice, i prefer lange

11 October 2017, 08:30 AM	#14
Stros1965 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Westeros Watch: AP, PP, JLC, Rolex Posts: 62	Thanks for the comments and ideas, gang. I have contacted my AD and I am going with a Lange 1 MP in white gold with the black dial and couldn't be more excited I go to pick it up on Saturday. Pictures to follow.

11 October 2017, 08:38 AM	#16
Defiancekofb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,999	I was looking into Lange, when I found the FP Journe Octa Automatique Lune, a stunning watch and then I saw the gold movement, I decided FP Journe it is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 October 2017, 11:42 AM	#19
Peterandwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: WA Watch: 5167/15400/Sub/JLC Posts: 1,023	Black Lange 1 with moon - perfection.

11 October 2017, 02:26 PM	#20
DaveChapin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Oregon Posts: 5	I’ve been waiting for my lange 1 moon phase for three months. Pick up is still 1.5 months away

11 October 2017, 02:49 PM	#22
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,391	I wish I could decide as easily as you. Congrats ��

12 October 2017, 11:16 AM	#26
wach16 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Boston, MA Watch: 228239, PAM00684 Posts: 2,116	Personally I would choose the Lange between the two. More complicated and IMO, you can't beat the Lange finishing __________________ Rolex 228239 PAM00684

13 October 2017, 03:38 AM	#27
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,219	Lange for sure, I was going to say bite the bullet and just go for the Zeitwerk but I see sanity prevailed. CIA.

13 October 2017, 07:15 AM	#28
rossi46 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: CT, by a lake Watch: shopping Posts: 1,463	So happy about your choice! The new L1 MP with black dial is simply stunning and right at the top of my list as a leather strap watch that can easily be worn as a daily (i.e. not a pure dress watch). Can't wait to see pics. Congrats! __________________ A watch is about the entire package, not just its appearance. Any large watch company not making its own movement is not making a watch at all; they’re just playing dress-up. --The Watch Snob

13 October 2017, 09:50 AM	#29
rfatm3f "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: NY Posts: 370	In theory I’m all about fpj. I looked at a chronometre Blue and fell in love with the movement. Then I tried it on. I wasn’t in love with the thickness of the strap and the way it mates with the watch. I much prefer my lange 1. YMMV

14 October 2017, 06:34 PM	#30
JayG "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: US Watch: FP Journe CB/ 5711 Posts: 345	Congrats on the Lange, amazing watch! For me its Francois Paul Journe, the true iconoclast

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