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20 October 2017, 02:05 AM | #31 |
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Based on my recent experience of the UK RSC I'd leave it as long as possible!
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20 October 2017, 03:05 AM | #32 |
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20 October 2017, 03:07 AM | #33 |
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20 October 2017, 10:32 AM | #34 |
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Took my sea dweller in for a 10 year however it was still running fine. Was concerned about gaskets and oils.
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20 October 2017, 10:57 AM | #35 |
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Two distinct sides on this issue. Those who will service every 5 years no matter what and those who will only service a watch when it no longer functions properly. The 5 year servicers believe it is preventive maintenance which will prevent major damage to the movement. The non-servicers, unless malfunctioning, believe opening the watch does more harm than good, if the watch is working properly, as human error can break what is not broken.
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20 October 2017, 11:05 AM | #36 |
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Agree with some others above-- don't service unless there is something noticeably wrong (but do get pressure tested if you are diving or doing other water sports). It's not at all like a car where there could be something wrong that you don't notice, which leads to much larger charges when you finally notice something wrong and your transmission seizes up or something.
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I have a Cellini thats over twenty years old. I just got it serviced last year; only because it was really getting long in the tooth. It has run like a champ for as long as i have had it. |
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20 October 2017, 12:09 PM | #39 | |
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Even before the recent discussions Rolex has printed in their guarantee booklets "Service .... about every 5 years depending on use." This did not make an emphatic statement of service intervals. Not sure if the latest booklets make mention of it at all.
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20 October 2017, 12:34 PM | #40 |
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Servicing a mechanical watch is not the same as changing the oil or other fluids in your car for preventative maintenance. If your watch is running as it should and you're not doing any crazy deepwater dives or other extreme activities, just leave it alone until it starts acting up. Then send it in for service.
I thought about this for years but never really understood until I started working on movements myself. And after a few years I'm still not very good but I now get the point that "if it ain't broke don't fix it" absolutely applies to mechanical watches. |
20 October 2017, 12:43 PM | #41 |
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I think it’s more of where someone feels comfortable. I was at Wynn Las Vegas today and in talking with Luis their watchmaker some people get it at 5yrs, some 7yrs and some not till it’s not working properly. I dropped of my 16710 bought new Dec of 1999 and it ran until this year. I asked him if my never servicing it hurt the watch so he took off the back for me and inspected it and said it was in perfectly fine shape. So I feel confident in servicing when needed.
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20 October 2017, 01:09 PM | #42 |
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My frame of reference was a 1977 GMT Pepsi every three years at $350 (they had me trained their way). However, just as cars are now with synthetic lube 10K vs 3K with fossil oil in automobiles, and Rolex service approaching $1K, I agree with a minimum of 10 years for any Rolex these days. The oyster case is sealed so where is the (now) synthetic lubricant evaporating to? The friction is distributed over 30 friction points, some more than others. Most of us have several watches so not 100% usage, another factor in the equation.
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11 December 2017, 12:42 AM | #43 |
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The good news is unlike a car the movement won't grenade itself if it's missed a service for too long.
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That's exactly the way I feel as well. The watch comes sealed from the factory and I'd like to keep that Swiss air locked inside as long as possible. Every time the case back is removed, unless of course to repair an issue, there's the potential for mischief. I feel this same way with a relatively simple Rolex Sub, and equally or even more so with a Patek grand complication.
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11 December 2017, 05:20 AM | #46 |
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Where it originated from was a letter from Rolex to dealers outlining the introduction of the new 5 year warranty.
The has been posted on this forum before. Within the letter Rolex mentions that typical service intervals are at 10 years or something to that effect. Ok, that all sort of seems reasonable enough taken at face value assuming one's comprehension is up to par. But i believe it was padding in the letter designed to give dealers/sales staff a little more ammunition to pursuade a prospective buyer who may have been cross shopping brands. You see there's a bit of a technology war going on between Rolex and Omega and Omega had released an official recommendation of about 7 years or something for their Co-axial movements. So i can only assume Rolex felt the need to respond in their superbly non-commital way. 10 years. Really? Not 8 or 9, but a nice neat round lazy 10 Ok, so where it really goes wrong is some watch journalist on an internet article sights the letter and runs off the content of the letter on some tangent and some how publishes the "fact" that Rolex has officially recommended a 10 year service interval. Period. That's the back story in a nutshell. An internet myth is born. And no, Rolex has never put anything in writing officially as far as i can recall over the past 40 odd years i've been playing with watches. |
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I only service when needed—as in, there is a noticeable issue.
I do pressure test all my watches once a year or so as I spend a lot of time in the water.
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In the main engine technogy has changed dramatically and exponentially. Where as not a great deal has happened in the last couple of hundred years or so with watch movement technolgies except for maybe the Daniels escapement and the Chronergy escapement along with the introduction of Synthetic lubes. With ICE tech. We have seen the introduction of very complex and sophisticated engine management systems over the last few decades that are able to lean A/F mixtures out to unprecedented levels and manage them across a wide gulf of parameters. Including fuel quality and specs Fuel quality has dramatically improved as a requirement to cater for the new tech engines. More specifically ever decreasingly mandated Sulfur content. Not to mention the phasing out of leaded fuel. Obviously Synthetic lubes in most of thier variations have helped as well I can only dream of 10 year intervals. About 5 is all i can get for a watch that's worn every day before it starts to show signs of having and issue or two triggering a service. |
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11 December 2017, 10:17 AM | #49 |
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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11 December 2017, 10:19 AM | #50 |
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That confusion over servicing intervals
I service my watches when something becomes noticeably wrong.
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Ha, your are right. I wouldn’t feel comfortable having him take off the case back otherwise. I dropped it off for servicing so it was nice to see the movement. Should be back this week from Dallas RSC. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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I would just wait to the watch started acting up, unless I was a professional diver or something, and my life depended on the watch (although I'd have a dive computer, anyways.) |
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12 December 2017, 08:36 PM | #53 |
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And unlike a car, RSC gives a warranty with that service.
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13 December 2017, 05:09 AM | #54 |
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i am just a messenger, my AD said 10 years..now if you want to know what Rolex says..
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If you dive with your watch, yearly. If you live in harsh conditions (heat/cold/dust) more often than regular service intervals. If you are a desk diver, less often. I will have my watches serviced when I notice a major change in their accuracy for an extended period of time.
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13 December 2017, 06:19 AM | #56 |
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Well, I buy a new car every time it’s time to change the oil. So with that said....
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