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Old 23 June 2019, 05:04 AM   #1
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16710 ‘Rectangular Stick’ dial - is this real?

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Things seem to be getting crazier and crazier in 16710 world.

Was browsing some ads and came across someone asking €18.500 for a 2007 used GMT Master II. Not the 3186 movement, not NOS; but a nice condition, full set, used example.

The reason for the price, the seller claims, is that it is an ultra rare ‘Rectangular Stick’ dial, which seems to be a stick dial but with the font for the rest of the ‘GMT Master II superlative chronometer officially certified’ text in the same font as can be found on a Rectangular dial, which apparently is different to the normal text found on the Stick dials, and is very rare.

Personally I wouldn’t pay a premium for the Stick or Rectangular dials, though I know they do command a higher price- but anyone heard of this ‘ultra rare’ version? Is it a real thing? Or is the Rolex world just getting crazier by the day?
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Old 23 June 2019, 05:08 AM   #2
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Crazier by the day if you ask me. Some things I’m willing to pay up for. Others not. Stick dials and even 3186 movements in GMTs are meaningless to me.
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Old 23 June 2019, 05:15 AM   #3
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It’s like people want to spend money for the sake of it. Like they’re waiting to be told what’s worth buying. Utter lunacy.
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Old 11 September 2019, 08:09 AM   #4
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ive got 1 for sale if anybody would care to take a look?
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Old 11 September 2019, 09:52 AM   #5
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Hi All

Things seem to be getting crazier and crazier in 16710 world.

Was browsing some ads and came across someone asking €18.500 for a 2007 used GMT Master II. Not the 3186 movement, not NOS; but a nice condition, full set, used example.

The reason for the price, the seller claims, is that it is an ultra rare ‘Rectangular Stick’ dial, which seems to be a stick dial but with the font for the rest of the ‘GMT Master II superlative chronometer officially certified’ text in the same font as can be found on a Rectangular dial, which apparently is different to the normal text found on the Stick dials, and is very rare.

Personally I wouldn’t pay a premium for the Stick or Rectangular dials, though I know they do command a higher price- but anyone heard of this ‘ultra rare’ version? Is it a real thing? Or is the Rolex world just getting crazier by the day?
I’ve never heard of anything like that. “Rare” doesn’t always translate to desirable.

Also with regard to the three GMT II dial versions, while most certainly a number of GMT II “stick dials” were original equipment, numerous sources report that the stick dials were used as service replacements. So who’s to say if any particular GMT with a stick dial was OEM or merely a service replacement? If anything, the “rectangular II” would appear to be the most rare version, for those who even care about such minutiae.
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Talk about hype. Any little thing to pick on to make it seem rare and desireable to raise the price. Stick dial, I think not.. but the 3186 premium takes the cake. Not my money..

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It’s like people want to spend money for the sake of it. Like they’re waiting to be told what’s worth buying. Utter lunacy.
Totally!
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Hi All

Things seem to be getting crazier and crazier in 16710 world.

Was browsing some ads and came across someone asking €18.500 for a 2007 used GMT Master II. Not the 3186 movement, not NOS; but a nice condition, full set, used example.

The reason for the price, the seller claims, is that it is an ultra rare ‘Rectangular Stick’ dial, which seems to be a stick dial but with the font for the rest of the ‘GMT Master II superlative chronometer officially certified’ text in the same font as can be found on a Rectangular dial, which apparently is different to the normal text found on the Stick dials, and is very rare.

Personally I wouldn’t pay a premium for the Stick or Rectangular dials, though I know they do command a higher price- but anyone heard of this ‘ultra rare’ version? Is it a real thing? Or is the Rolex world just getting crazier by the day?

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It’s getting so much harder to even care anymore, isn’t it?
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Old 11 September 2019, 11:19 PM   #10
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Hi All

Things seem to be getting crazier and crazier in 16710 world.

Was browsing some ads and came across someone asking €18.500 for a 2007 used GMT Master II. Not the 3186 movement, not NOS; but a nice condition, full set, used example.

The reason for the price, the seller claims, is that it is an ultra rare ‘Rectangular Stick’ dial, which seems to be a stick dial but with the font for the rest of the ‘GMT Master II superlative chronometer officially certified’ text in the same font as can be found on a Rectangular dial, which apparently is different to the normal text found on the Stick dials, and is very rare.

Personally I wouldn’t pay a premium for the Stick or Rectangular dials, though I know they do command a higher price- but anyone heard of this ‘ultra rare’ version? Is it a real thing? Or is the Rolex world just getting crazier by the day?
They are as rare as $1 bills but internet hype from most sellers today hope to drive prices up.At one time it was declared on the net if you had one of these dials you was sure to have a 3186 inside but this was complete nonsense.
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