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Old 17 October 2019, 09:47 PM   #31
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Aka Cote De Geneve, anglage, and perlage.

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I would agree it is fine design with well-finished components. Manual movements give the designer a rich palette to apply their skills in swooping curves and geegaws.
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Old 17 October 2019, 09:50 PM   #32
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I don't think owners of these "pretty" movement watches care to abuse their watches. Personally I don't care to abuse my Rolex pieces either. I think there is something for everyone and part of owning a highly finished watch is being able to appreciate the time and work that went into making it. Handmade watches are a work of art and genius, hence they are not for everyone.
Yes I know that. I said I prefer my timepieces to be resilient not that everyone should think the way I do. I speak for myself.
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Old 17 October 2019, 11:49 PM   #33
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My JLC has far better finishing of the movement than any Rolex. But, a Rolex is a more robust and reliable watch. I appreciate the JLC finishing because it’s a bit like artwork and shows an attention to detail that somewhat justifies the cost.


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Old 18 October 2019, 01:26 AM   #34
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Too bad with all that great finishing, many cannot attain within +2 / -2 in accuracy.
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Old 18 October 2019, 01:38 AM   #35
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Awesome pics, thanks for sharing.
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Old 18 October 2019, 01:57 AM   #36
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Rolex is and always has been about function over aesthetics.
I think their movements look quite nice.

I'm surprised of how many naysayers jumped in to criticise the looks when we all know they are build to last.

Also comparing that ALS movement from a company that makes 5000 watches in a year and cost 8 times more, to the mass produced Rolex ones is quite unfair.
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Old 18 October 2019, 02:05 AM   #37
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its the reason I installed a sapphire caseback from Custom Watch Concepts on my new daytona.
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Old 18 October 2019, 02:08 AM   #38
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I stare at them for 40hrs a week (and get paid for it), and they still look pretty good to me.

See? Even the professionals like Bas who look at it all the time can still appreciate it!

Honestly though, does movement finish really matter to the consumer? I would prefer a utilitarian finish that is effective, efficient, and functional. I don’t care to pay additional for a movement that is visually spectacular because 99% of the time, even with a display case back only the back of my wrist gets to see it. And the back of my wrist doesn’t have eyes.
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Old 18 October 2019, 02:10 AM   #39
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I agree with everyone here.
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Old 18 October 2019, 02:12 AM   #40
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I don't care how finished a JLC is....I'll never own a watch where I can't pronounce the damn thing. And I swear to god, when I hear someone pronounce it correctly I'm wondering what alphabet they are using.
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Old 18 October 2019, 11:16 AM   #41
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This is finishing

Wow!
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Old 18 October 2019, 11:38 AM   #42
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Very nice pics. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 18 October 2019, 11:52 AM   #43
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Rolex Movement Finishing



Here’s a functional movement. Vacheron Constantin Overseas. Geneva Seal manufacture movement with reveal back case with 22k hand engraved rotor hand finished. In a sports watch with water resistance to 150 meters. Hand applied cote de Geneve, etc.

More antimagnetic and water resistant than a Rolex non diving Oyster.

You can have both.



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Old 18 October 2019, 12:14 PM   #44
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Thanks everyone for their feedback, and I'm glad most appreciated the photos as much as I did.

Of course there are better finished movements, but speaking to Rolex specifically, I am still impressed.

I'm seeing the bevelled edges, perlage, high polish screws, and of course the design as a whole - it looks very nice in my opinion. Perhaps somewhat industrial looking, but to each his own on what they perceive as attractive.

Considering these movements are made to be incredibly accurate, robust, long lasting and behind a solid case back, they don't need to be decorated at all but they are.
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Old 18 October 2019, 12:29 PM   #45
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Thanks everyone for their feedback, and I'm glad most appreciated the photos as much as I did.

Of course there are better finished movements, but speaking to Rolex specifically, I am still impressed.

I'm seeing the bevelled edges, perlage, high polish screws, and of course the design as a whole - it looks very nice in my opinion. Perhaps somewhat industrial looking, but to each his own on what they perceive as attractive.

Considering these movements are made to be incredibly accurate, robust, long lasting and behind a solid case back, they don't need to be decorated at all but they are.
I agree. Rolex’s finish is the true definition of function meets beauty. The fact that they don’t have to but choose to perfect every details hidden inside the case tells us everything we need to know about them as a company. This is a company that doesn’t compromise on quality.
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Old 18 October 2019, 12:35 PM   #46
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I agree. Rolex’s finish is the true definition of function meets beauty. The fact that they don’t have to but choose to perfect every details hidden inside the case tells us everything we need to know about them as a company. This is a company that doesn’t compromise on quality.
Sorry, I don't see it. BUT...I don't hold it against them because it's under a solid caseback and I can't see it.
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Old 18 October 2019, 12:56 PM   #47
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This is a cool thread. Especially for newbies wondering about higher tier who have no appreciation for this stuff yet.
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Old 19 October 2019, 02:27 AM   #48
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I agree. Rolex’s finish is the true definition of function meets beauty. The fact that they don’t have to but choose to perfect every details hidden inside the case tells us everything we need to know about them as a company. This is a company that doesn’t compromise on quality.


Well said, this is what I was alluding to.
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Old 19 October 2019, 05:59 AM   #49
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This is a cool thread. Especially for newbies wondering about higher tier who have no appreciation for this stuff yet.
There’s a really good primer here:

https://monochrome-watches.com/a-tec...te-horlogerie/

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Old 19 October 2019, 09:25 PM   #50
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Thanks for sharing and all the kind words
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Old 19 October 2019, 09:37 PM   #51
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Too bad with all that great finishing, many cannot attain within +2 / -2 in accuracy.
Most will but many have no idea how a mechanical movement works or how they are tested.When tested on a machine in a controlled environment with mainspring at full power reserve, then tested in different positions and temperatures.Then result averaged out to -2+2 seconds movement could pass at time of testing.But on the wrist wearing with many many variables yes some could vary slightly.Just like how they test new cars fuel consumption in a controlled environment,its doubtful if many owners will get the exact fuel mileage manufacture states.Just like the watch test many variables, like how heavy foot on gas pedal traffic etc same for all mechanical watches on the wrist.
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