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Old 27 April 2020, 08:51 AM   #1
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Submariner 14060 - Need your review please

Hi all, reading posts for a long time, I decided to purchase my first rolex and I really need your help please. I am looking at this sub. I know the watch has been polished but I think it's quite okay, no ? Do you see something else ? something wrong ??? Thanks for your help !
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Old 27 April 2020, 09:13 AM   #2
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Is the bezel pristine or dirty at the top? Watch out with that if the pictures aren't sharp or properly taken.
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:11 AM   #3
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The crown guards are polished to almost intentionally make them look like eagle beak, which is a warning sign (someone tried to pull a funny business during the lifetime of this watch even if it's not the current seller). You should also ask for between-lug shots and inside of case back/movement. If the seller is not willing to do give them to you, I'd walk away. (I'd personally walk away by just those crown guards alone). My $0.02.
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:28 AM   #4
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These are really dropping in price since COVID. Be patient and find a good one.
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:51 AM   #5
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This watch probably has the most over-polished crown guards that I have ever seen. Unbelievable!
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Old 27 April 2020, 06:11 PM   #6
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These are really dropping in price since COVID. Be patient and find a good one.
I find it weird that these are dropping harder than a 16570 or an Explorer 1 36mm. If I look at dealer listings, I think they are buying these at 4-5k USD. Crazy prices. But these are the more actually worn examples and from the 90s and early 2000s.

Just hope the 16710 goes this route.
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Old 27 April 2020, 07:35 PM   #7
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I would wait for a better example and (hopefully) a better price...
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Old 27 April 2020, 08:15 PM   #8
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This watch probably has the most over-polished crown guards that I have ever seen. Unbelievable!
I'm looking at my own 14060 (really clean if I can say that) and it looks similar, but this one hasn't been polished (or perhaps slightly slightly slightly once). Perhaps it's the angle?

Now I'm doubting my own.
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Old 27 April 2020, 08:31 PM   #9
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overused - pass.
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:02 PM   #10
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I'm looking at my own 14060 (really clean if I can say that) and it looks similar, but this one hasn't been polished (or perhaps slightly slightly slightly once). Perhaps it's the angle?

Now I'm doubting my own.
I'm in this camp.

Jeez fellas.............. its a 20+ year old watch. Overused???
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:16 PM   #11
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Hi all, reading posts for a long time, I decided to purchase my first rolex and I really need your help please. I am looking at this sub. I know the watch has been polished but I think it's quite okay, no ? Do you see something else ? something wrong ??? Thanks for your help !
First off, I see you’re from Brussels, my wife and I love traveling to Belgium and have had great times there. If you like this watch and the price is right for you, I say go for it. You could keep looking, I’m sure there will possibly be a better deal but sometimes it’s the old saying about bird in hand is worth two in the bush

Good luck!
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:20 PM   #12
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little too over-polished for me. Looks a little too used. However, if the price reflects the condition...might be a buy..
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:38 PM   #13
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I would ask for more photos, and post here for a follow-up. Seems 50/50 so far.
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:41 PM   #14
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Old 27 April 2020, 10:49 PM   #15
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The crown guards are polished ..... excessively .... over

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Old 27 April 2020, 10:52 PM   #16
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The crown guards are polished ..... excessively .... over

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Old 27 April 2020, 11:15 PM   #17
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Wow. You guys... valid points on the over polishing, but it's one of those things that if you hadn't mentioned it, he'd probably never know and would likely live on happily ever after.

These are becoming old watches, and many have been serviced and polished. Instead of calling them all over polished, let's just say that they have extra patina, huh?

And for @Wahlburg's comment, I disagree, I haven't seen prices dropping for nice examples. But I haven't been keeping a close eye on the market either.
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Old 28 April 2020, 01:53 AM   #18
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Wow. You guys... valid points on the over polishing, but it's one of those things that if you hadn't mentioned it, he'd probably never know and would likely live on happily ever after.

These are becoming old watches, and many have been serviced and polished. Instead of calling them all over polished, let's just say that they have extra patina, huh?

And for @Wahlburg's comment, I disagree, I haven't seen prices dropping for nice examples. But I haven't been keeping a close eye on the market either.
Worn examples are at 6k ish. At least, that's where I saw these for at a couple of greys. Some 167xx are at high 8k's.



This is the 14060 (2010) I bought last year. Crownguards are good or? I think I'm starting to see things that are or aren't there.



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Old 28 April 2020, 02:26 AM   #19
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Worn examples are at 6k ish. At least, that's where I saw these for at a couple of greys. Some 167xx are at high 8k's.



This is the 14060 (2010) I bought last year. Crownguards are good or? I think I'm starting to see things that are or aren't there.



those crown guards have seen better days, scroll up to see what an example of how the crown guards are suppose to look. Not as bad as OP's
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Old 28 April 2020, 02:32 AM   #20
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I would never buy a Sub with crown guards polished down like that...it sets alarm bells ringing! And the polishing looks very roughly done to my eyes. It makes me think about what else might be wrong with the watch that I can´t see or am just not expert enough to evaluate? No, walk away, sadly...
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Old 28 April 2020, 02:57 AM   #21
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Old 28 April 2020, 03:28 AM   #22
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I've requested more pictures and the seller refused (watch is in a banksafe, cannot take 100 pictures of every watch, cannot fulfill all wishes, etc.). That watch is definitely not for me, I pass :(
It's not so easy to find a correct 14060 tritium full set in Europe, I'm looking for it since a while now. They are all overpriced ... (contacted a seller in Italy selling a very nice one for 9000Eur !).
Anyway, many thanks for your help guys !!!
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Old 28 April 2020, 03:46 AM   #23
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That thing has literally been polished to death.

(You did good by passing)

Find another. There are SOoooo many GOOD ones out there . . .
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Old 28 April 2020, 09:07 PM   #24
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Here's mine just back from the RSC. I've had it from new, it's 19 years old & been to the RSC twice so it has had some polishing.

Why do we see watches that have been "polished to death"??

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