Thoughts on the Calatrava 5212A weekly calendar?

[pdnb]

How does the 7 day indicator transition from 1 day to another?

For example say Tuesday to Wednesday? I assume it starts at midnight and “finishes” by 1 or 2 am? But snaps to the middle of the day?

Similar question to the actual date… from the 24th to the 25th (or any other date change).

Lastly… for the actual work week indicator … I believe there are no transitions but an indicator that does 1 revolution a year

Thanks in advance!


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[Medem]

Originally Posted by PatekSF

The one dilemma that I have, and that no one at Patek has been able to answer, is why at the top of the day ring does it state “Sunday”

Excellent observation. I am sure there is a very good reason. We just don’t get to see the full picture, even if it were staring us in the face.
Great watch. I would not hesitate at MSRP.

[Conant]

Originally Posted by DavidSB

It's become a favorite and I enjoy the visuals of the 5 hand display and font. I love the silver opaline dial which it pretty amazing, especially in daylight. Try to see one outside. The movement has 304 parts in a 10.8mm case height so it wears pretty thin. By comparison my 5167a - my most comfortable - is 8.1mm with 213 parts. Like others I switched to the blue 5172 strap, added a white gold deployment and wear it much more often.

Did you order this from your AD? I showed this thread to the Patek service center in Bangkok and for some reason they believed they could only order the white gold deployant with alligator and not the blue calfskin.

[Conant]

On mine I’ve observed that the day indicator isn’t “connected” to the date in that when I set the date it has no impact on the days. When you adjust the time and cross midnight it does exactly what you described with it hitting the middle of the day at around 2am.

Originally Posted by pdnb

How does the 7 day indicator transition from 1 day to another?

For example say Tuesday to Wednesday? I assume it starts at midnight and “finishes” by 1 or 2 am? But snaps to the middle of the day?

Similar question to the actual date… from the 24th to the 25th (or any other date change).

Lastly… for the actual work week indicator … I believe there are no transitions but an indicator that does 1 revolution a year

Thanks in advance!


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[pdnb]

Originally Posted by Conant

On mine I’ve observed that the day indicator isn’t “connected” to the date in that when I set the date it has no impact on the days. When you adjust the time and cross midnight it does exactly what you described with it hitting the middle of the day at around 2am.

Thanks for the confirmation!


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[DavidSB]

Conant - yes, I ordered the deployment-specific strap and buckle from an AD and it took about 4 months. If you're having a problem contact Tracy the watch strap manager at Henri Stern in NYC and ask if she can get you this combination.

[eanzenberg]

Originally Posted by PatekSF

If Monday is the first day of the week, then why didn’t Patek print the day ring with Monday at the very top?

Goofy that the top of the day ring shows Sunday, IMO

Same reason why 1pm (or 1am) is not at the top of the dial of a watch, but first to the right.

[Yusef]

Ha! Right!!!

[Dvle23]

I just bought one. I love it. Literally I dont wear my rolexes as much anymore

[serenerabbit]

Not a single person at the local AD made a request for this when it was released. Their eagerness to sell me one when I discussed it about three weeks after launch was evident. Don't regret not buying but still like it for its whimsical nature.

[Locust]

Been trying to get one for 18 months. Spoke to another AD who lectured me about the demand and that I can’t have anything new or steel. Such a turn off.

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by Conant

Did you order this from your AD? I showed this thread to the Patek service center in Bangkok and for some reason they believed they could only order the white gold deployant with alligator and not the blue calfskin.

There is now a SS Deployant available for it to order if you are looking for it.

[watchnerdofficial]

Originally Posted by Snerks

Its selling for, at minimum 10k+ over retail.

The chance of you getting one at retail randomly from an AD is essentially 0.

I see them listed on chrono24 for retail price .fyi

[watchnerdofficial]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

There is now a SS Deployant available for it to order if you are looking for it.

Please how/where can I order this?

[ChetBaker]

Originally Posted by watchnerdofficial

I see them listed on chrono24 for retail price .fyi

Or just under even. These were 50k just half a year ago.

[patlex]

It is a lovely watch. Looking to an allocation, hopefully this year.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by watchnerdofficial

I see them listed on chrono24 for retail price .fyi

Originally Posted by ChetBaker

Or just under even. These were 50k just half a year ago.

Have you guys got a special version of C24, I can see 65 advertised and the cheapest (private sale) is +£2k over list with the rest £4-£8k over list. Perhaps US list is cheaper? UK is exactly £30k.

[codecow]

I bought this when it was announced. Reasoning is simple, a brand new complication and in steel means as soon as it is discontinued the value will just go up and up. I wore it once in the store when I picked it up and then it went right into the bank safe.

I do like it, but not enough to add it to the rotation.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Have you guys got a special version of C24, I can see 65 advertised and the cheapest (private sale) is +£2k over list with the rest £4-£8k over list. Perhaps US list is cheaper? UK is exactly £30k.

This is slightly over MSRP private seller in the UK, with new price increase Feb 1st should be pretty much there. I’m sure you can knock off 1-2k




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[dauster]

Originally Posted by dauster

This is slightly over MSRP private seller in the UK, with new price increase Feb 1st should be pretty much there. I’m sure you can knock off 1-2k




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US list price is $37,260 forgot to mention that


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[Russell996]

Originally Posted by dauster

This is slightly over MSRP private seller in the UK, with new price increase Feb 1st should be pretty much there. I’m sure you can knock off 1-2k




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Yes indeed, thanks for confirming US price isn’t cheaper, as I said not a single piece on c24 advertised at list or below, contrary to what was stated in the posts above. It will be interesting to see where the MSRP goes, 3 years ago it was £25k.

[321Forever]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

Any additional thoughts from people who are more familiar with Patek would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I think there are a lot of folks who would argue that all Patek new releases show a lack of demand, unless they fall into the Nautilus or Aquanaut spheres. And lest you forget, those models languished for years, too.

In the long run, it's a reasonable guess that there will be greater appreciation of the 5212 after it's discontinued, given its unusual dial and given it is a stainless steel watch. That might be 10 years after it's no longer in production.

I also think that on TRF there's been a shift of the threads away from prizing gran complications to prizing Nautilus quantity. So you're more likely to get comments that reflect that shift.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Yes indeed, thanks for confirming US price isn’t cheaper, as I said not a single piece on c24 advertised at list or below, contrary to what was stated in the posts above. It will be interesting to see where the MSRP goes, 3 years ago it was £25k.

Yeah indeed I’m going back and forth on the 5212, 5226 or 5524 - honestly none these really convince me in the flesh at least it did not move me that much that’s why I have not pulled the trigger yet but I do like them and I guess if the price is right I’ll pick one up eventually


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[codecow]

Originally Posted by jakemeister

I think there are a lot of folks who would argue that all Patek new releases show a lack of demand, unless they fall into the Nautilus or Aquanaut spheres. And lest you forget, those models languished for years, too.

In the long run, it's a reasonable guess that there will be greater appreciation of the 5212 after it's discontinued, given its unusual dial and given it is a stainless steel watch. That might be 10 years after it's no longer in production.

I also think that on TRF there's been a shift of the threads away from prizing gran complications to prizing Nautilus quantity. So you're more likely to get comments that reflect that shift.

Yeah it might take a long time and you need to be a long term believer.

I ordered a 5960/1A when it was announced and the buyer was still at Basel. It dropped what maybe 15-20k and then after being discontinued and during the run up made it back over MSRP.

Short production, steel, sporty look = long term winner.

[Calatrava r]

The used watch site I follow has two at 42K. They have seen a lot of these lately. It is a busy dial which may be the reason some people trade out of them.

[ChetBaker]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Yes indeed, thanks for confirming US price isn’t cheaper, as I said not a single piece on c24 advertised at list or below, contrary to what was stated in the posts above. It will be interesting to see where the MSRP goes, 3 years ago it was £25k.

https://www.chrono24.com/patekphilip...id26880324.htm

This one IS below list. I’m in the Netherlands where list is 38400 btw.

[LJubel328]

Also a slightly used one in the classifieds for 40k.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=876516


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[MP777]

Dial is quite busy

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by watchnerdofficial

Please how/where can I order this?

Patek ADs, Service centers etc. My friend was able to get an SS Deployant, however he had to bring in his 5212A.

[huydoan]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

Patek ADs, Service centers etc. My friend was able to get an SS Deployant, however he had to bring in his 5212A.

I think it depends on the country. I learn that the Patek distributor in SEA only allows me to buy the Patek strap/deployant/buckle if I have this model bought directly from one of its retailers. for example if I have 5212a, I cannot buy the 6007a strap or SS deployant.