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Old 22 January 2023, 02:52 PM   #1
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Thoughts on a new 5712/1A-001

I know most people might think this is an absurd question:

I've been offered a new 5712/1A-001 by AD but I'm hesitating. the 5711 is gone and has been replaced by the 5811.

Eventually all of the 57.. series will be replaced

Q: buy the 5711/1A or wait for the future?

If I'm buying a new car I want the new one, not last years model

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Old 22 January 2023, 03:28 PM   #2
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slam dunk no brainer to get it. I'll even give you money for it so you can build history and agree to not flip.
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Old 22 January 2023, 03:31 PM   #3
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I'd take a 3712 at today's retail in a heartbeat.
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Old 22 January 2023, 04:19 PM   #4
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Just buy it. Stop thinking.
If 5712 is replaced by new reference buy that one as well. Done!
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Old 22 January 2023, 04:47 PM   #5
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tough choice. I wouldn't risk it. please let me know which is your AD and I take the bullet for you. =)
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Old 22 January 2023, 05:17 PM   #6
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Old 22 January 2023, 05:17 PM   #7
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think about it, there will be always a new model coming out whether you buy the next model coming or the next replacing it........just buy what you like, not what's new out there


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Old 22 January 2023, 06:43 PM   #8
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I wouldn’t turn down one of the most sought after sports watches in the world. And who’s to say the new model will be better? It might involve a size change that makes it less suitable to your wrist.
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Old 23 January 2023, 02:51 AM   #9
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Love my 5712, don’t hesitate
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Old 23 January 2023, 03:37 AM   #10
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I'd buy the 5712 today if you pass let me know. I have a 5711 and want to add a 5712.
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Old 23 January 2023, 03:56 AM   #11
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Must be a joke. A bad joke.
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Old 23 January 2023, 04:06 AM   #12
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5712

Thank you for responses.

Not a joke. I have several Nautilus, just not this one. As time goes on I become more discerning in my collecting and don't just purchase a watch because it's available to me.
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Old 23 January 2023, 04:33 AM   #13
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Thank you for responses.

Not a joke. I have several Nautilus, just not this one. As time goes on I become more discerning in my collecting and don't just purchase a watch because it's available to me.
Agreed, in this context the original question makes a lot of sense, and is to be commended. A more mature/discerning mindset makes for a more interesting collection, and collector. Of course this makes the question more challenging too, especially given the key changes (discontinuations vs. new releases) in the PP catalogue over past couple of years. If I was properly discerning (and disciplined enough to not immediately jump on the offered 5712), I would take stock of “gaps” and where that piece may fit in the collection. It’s too hard to anticipate what is coming, and the 5712 asymmetry really is unique enough to me to make me want it. I wouldn’t expect a very similar steel offering if 5712 was replaced, so if 5712 rounds out my collection then I’d go with the bird in hand.
Good luck with your choice.
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Old 23 January 2023, 04:42 AM   #14
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Buy it. The end.
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Old 23 January 2023, 09:43 AM   #15
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The 5712/A is simply a must have piece if offered to purchase.
But I can fathom the hesitation especially as Patek discontinued the 5711 only to bring out the updated 5811 (albeit in WG) version a short while later so the OP is perhaps of the mindset that Patek may bring out an updated version of this model as the 5812?
And if that were the case, and if I had a crystal ball then I would wait as well I guess.
But then again if I had a crystal ball I would have bought all my Nautilus without waitlist and at discount pre 2017. And therein lies the rub.
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Old 23 January 2023, 09:16 PM   #16
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Hard to pass on that, may also be the last of the 5712 steel. Personally much prefer a steel sports piece to a white gold one assuming that it will finish soon. Lighter and more scratch resistant than white gold, easier to wear. Wouldn’t worry about what next iteration may be assuming there is an update of it.
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Old 24 January 2023, 12:27 AM   #17
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Thank you for responses.

Not a joke. I have several Nautilus, just not this one. As time goes on I become more discerning in my collecting and don't just purchase a watch because it's available to me.
Makes sense, but this one is iconic and would complement any serious collection.
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Old 24 January 2023, 12:56 AM   #18
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I bought the one I had after someone I knew passed on it. I ended up not liking it and I sold it.

I had tried the model on before that, back in the day when it would sit in the case. It took wearing it for a while to decide it wasn’t really for me.
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Old 24 January 2023, 01:44 AM   #19
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I’ll take it lol you can keep the box and papers. I’ll send a bottle of pappy or screaming Eagle plus cost.
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Old 24 January 2023, 02:59 AM   #20
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I get your point of view. That being said…if you readily have the funds…I would take it. It’s a great watch that is super interesting as it’s the first real complicated Nautilus (outside of 3712) and is a great daily driver.
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Old 24 January 2023, 03:04 AM   #21
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Good Gosh, if I was offered it at retail, I would get to the store at warp speed. If I didn’t have the fund, I would skip meals for as long as it takes to fund. Love LOVE that watch.
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Old 24 January 2023, 04:01 AM   #22
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Old 24 January 2023, 04:34 AM   #23
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I know most people might think this is an absurd question:

I've been offered a new 5712/1A-001 by AD but I'm hesitating. the 5711 is gone and has been replaced by the 5811.

Eventually all of the 57.. series will be replaced

Q: buy the 5711/1A or wait for the future?

If I'm buying a new car I want the new one, not last years model

Thanks,
I don't think the car comparison where you say you'd want the new model works all that well. When it comes to watches new isn't always better. Even more so when looking at the state of Patek and their catalogue changes over the past 15-20 years. More often than not I prefer the older and discontinued refs over their respective successors such as 3940>5327, 5110>5230, 5170P>5172G, 3970/5970>5270, and also 5711/1A>5811/1G.

Long story short, I would not hesitate and pick up that 5712/1A even if a replacement was around the corner.
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Old 24 January 2023, 05:54 AM   #24
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I don't think the car comparison where you say you'd want the new model works all that well. When it comes to watches new isn't always better. Even more so when looking at the state of Patek and their catalogue changes over the past 15-20 years. More often than not I prefer the older and discontinued refs over their respective successors such as 3940>5327, 5110>5230, 5170P>5172G, 3970/5970>5270, and also 5711/1A>5811/1G.

Long story short, I would not hesitate and pick up that 5712/1A even if a replacement was around the corner.

Great examples, exactly my view on it


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Old 24 January 2023, 06:11 AM   #25
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I can't believe there is any hesitation here. I'll even buy it from you at a small premium if you are really thinking about passing on it.
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Old 24 January 2023, 06:36 AM   #26
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like someone else said Id buy it for a small premium and you can keep the box and papers to make sure I dont sell it and hurt your relationship -worst case you buy it and keep it in the safe and trade it towards a grand comp piece in a couple years
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Old 25 January 2023, 02:54 PM   #27
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Old 25 January 2023, 03:49 PM   #28
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Ofc OP disappeared after the hoards of unsolicited offers lol
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Old 25 January 2023, 04:48 PM   #29
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Old 26 January 2023, 05:32 AM   #30
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I'm surprised the responses keep rolling in. Thank you.

We all love watches, and we certainly collect for different purposes. The opinions shared here clearly point in the direction I had assumed: buy it without hesitation, which I probably will.

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