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Old 19 November 2018, 06:06 AM   #1
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F3 Macau crash

https://youtu.be/C0W7CMR4tV0

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/18/m...cli/index.html

Pretty insane crash, the 17 year old female driver got away with a broken spine. This could have ended much worse for her and the people behind the fence...
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Old 19 November 2018, 06:18 AM   #2
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Horrifying that one.

Gave me goosebumps.

Hope everyone walks away from that accident (after surgery) etc.


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Old 19 November 2018, 06:19 AM   #3
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F3 Macau crash

Yes terrible.

The organizer had straight fencing but she vaulted over another car it appears.
And went in backwards.

Hope for a full recovery and not paralysis.

Unfortunately, the crash injured five people - two drivers, two photographers and one track marshal.


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Old 19 November 2018, 06:21 AM   #4
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holy crap that is insane!!

hope she recovers!
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Old 19 November 2018, 07:11 AM   #5
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Wow. And in a split second and at 167mph(270km/h) Crazy!
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Old 19 November 2018, 07:16 AM   #6
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Old 19 November 2018, 07:20 AM   #7
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Wow! Glad she is alive and others on the other side of the fence are not hurt too!
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Old 19 November 2018, 07:37 AM   #8
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The fact that she survived that is nothing short of a miracle. Holy crap!
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Old 19 November 2018, 07:43 AM   #9
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Still trying to figure out how this happened. Crazy. glad she is ok.
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Old 19 November 2018, 07:51 AM   #10
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WOW! Why was she going so much faster than everyone else?
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Old 19 November 2018, 09:17 AM   #11
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Prior collision damaged aerodynamics components. Once you lost downforce, won’t be able to stop very well.
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Old 19 November 2018, 09:56 AM   #12
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WOW! Why was she going so much faster than everyone else?
Brakes don’t work when you’re airborn.
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Old 19 November 2018, 10:03 AM   #13
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Macau always brings out the worst accidents. What's more amazing is that bikes run there....


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Old 19 November 2018, 10:05 AM   #14
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Unbelievable. I hope everyone heals and gets back to living life as they were.
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Old 19 November 2018, 10:10 AM   #15
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F3 Macau crash

The dramatic speed she had on the video - coming into that corner - was due to hitting other cars before she came into camera range. The drivers were slowing for the corner except she didn’t brake in time. She was already 180° turned and skipping onto the inside curbing and launching airborne.

FIA will investigate further but here is what a driver told officials and reporters:

Ferrari junior driver Guan Yu Zhou, who was behind Floersch, explained how the unprecedented crash unfolded.

“First of all it was such a scary moment,” Zhou said.

“Sophia was really close to Jehan, so when Jehan braked early she had no time to react.

“She hit Jehan’s right-rear, and that spun her around straight into Lisboa, and she flew into the other car.”


What I find miraculous is that her helmeted head managed to not hit the fence pole nor photog’s scaffolding. We’ve lost many open cockpit drivers from head hits into obstacles.

She is tweeting from the hospital and alert - hopefully her spinal surgery will be successful.

A Photog has a lacerated liver and another was concussed. The course marshal has a fractured jaw. Another driver she hit before the launch into the fence has back pain.

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Old 19 November 2018, 10:18 AM   #16
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Dang that was about as bad as it gets
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Old 19 November 2018, 11:09 AM   #17
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Wow, that's insane. I saw a crash up close during the 2018 Indy race weekend in Toronto. It was the Friday morning during practice. It seemed intense but was nothing compared to that, wow.
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Old 19 November 2018, 11:39 AM   #18
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The velocity of her being airborne is something I have never seen like this.
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Old 19 November 2018, 11:54 AM   #19
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The velocity of her being airborne is something I have never seen like this.
When everyone else is braking into a tight corner, and you have so much static stuff(building, people, etc.) a car doing 167mph looks like a bullet. It's all perspective. 200MPH crashes in NASCAR look almost slow motion because everyone is doing the same speed and the camera is panning.
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Old 19 November 2018, 12:54 PM   #20
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Makes me think of the Mark Webber crash in Spain.

Amazing that she survived that!
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Old 19 November 2018, 07:10 PM   #21
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Makes me think of the Mark Webber crash in Spain.

Me too.

And he walked away from that without a scratch.



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Old 19 November 2018, 09:37 PM   #22
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After these reactions, not even going to watch the video.
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Old 19 November 2018, 09:42 PM   #23
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Amazing crash.
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Old 19 November 2018, 11:00 PM   #24
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After these reactions, not even going to watch the video.


Don’t blame you.

Once seen, you cannot un-see!!


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Old 19 November 2018, 11:35 PM   #25
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Racing is still dangerous even with all safety measures. Wonder if it was a pure driver misstake or if anything mechanical broke that made her unable to break.
Pray that she gets a full recovery.
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Old 19 November 2018, 11:41 PM   #27
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Is there any footage of what happened upstream?

I can see that the car comes into the corner backward and clearly out of control but I would like to see what happened on the straight away before the turn.
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Old 19 November 2018, 11:57 PM   #28
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Racing is still dangerous even with all safety measures. Wonder if it was a pure driver misstake or if anything mechanical broke that made her unable to break.
Pray that she gets a full recovery.


I wouldn’t necessarily call it a driver mistake, it was the green flag lap and cars were bunched - she was just caught out unsighted by the driver ahead of her who hit the brakes.

The reaction time in such close quarters on the first lap usually leads to contact. But in this case it caused a 180° spin and multiple issues that resulted in an airborne condition.

There was little chance anything broke so early in the race - and with the damage done to the chassis/suspension even less chance to know after the fact.

But a lack of hubris could be a factor some might call driver error. Incautiously approaching the turn at speed could have been a contributing factor.

I deal with this many times a year with very young drivers. It is hard to overstate their feelings of invulnerability which results from adolescent risk assessment capacity coupled with over-reliance on the strength of modern race car safety measures. Oftentimes they place their car in a position that more experienced drivers know can lead to disastrous results.

Not pointing fingers, just sharing some angles of thought while the story unfolds.




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Old 20 November 2018, 12:00 AM   #29
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Is there any footage of what happened upstream?

I can see that the car comes into the corner backward and clearly out of control but I would like to see what happened on the straight away before the turn.


FIA has all the cars’ videos - F3 cars all have forward and rear facing cameras. So cars behind the incident (upstream as you say) as well as the one who she hit will have video. But the videos may still not indicate the exact cause.


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Old 20 November 2018, 12:43 AM   #30
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While driving down the highway at 80 mph, I sometimes wonder what it would be like going from 80 to 0 mph in a space of ten feet. Now imagine going from 170 to 0 against a building. I'm surprised she survived the G-forces of the declaration.
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