Interesting comparison between REAL and FAKE "LV"

[sirjohnbrian]

Originally Posted by mcubed

Though the original post missed what gave it away for me right away: Not the Crown, but something close to it, and something counterfeiters rarely get right, ESPECIALLY on subs.....;

What?

[DHLChief]

Unbelieveable. Every once in a while I realize everything that I still don't know. Very informative. Thanks a million.

[DadsWatch72]

Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

A Sea-Dweller comparison if anyone is interested:

http://petemillar.com/rolex/rolex.htm

Interesting link. I appreciate when I am able to learn about what to look for and not find myself $10,000 or more lighter for a cheap piece of crapola. When I inadvertently posted a link to a youtube video with a fake regarding the movement of the Deep Sea, it was swiftly and promptly removed because "it is a link to a Replica Dealer and a video for fakes, and against Forum rules.." I don't understand why it was not left on the forum for no other reason than to learn what to look for so nobody gets dooped. This is especially perplexing to me since there are other threads (like this one which is 6 pages long) which contain material regarding fakes and they aren't removed or "reminded" of the forum rules. Its leaves me confused as to what I can or can not post.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by DadsWatch72

Interesting link. I appreciate when I am able to learn about what to look for and not find myself $10,000 or more lighter for a cheap piece of crapola. When I inadvertently posted a link to a youtube video with a fake regarding the movement of the Deep Sea, it was swiftly and promptly removed because "it is a link to a Replica Dealer and a video for fakes, and against Forum rules.." I don't understand why it was not left on the forum for no other reason than to learn what to look for so nobody gets dooped. This is especially perplexing to me since there are other threads (like this one which is 6 pages long) which contain material regarding fakes and they aren't removed or "reminded" of the forum rules. Its leaves me confused as to what I can or can not post.

It is b/c this post is old as dirt. Rules changed. I think this should be locked. Why does anyone want to compare their real Rolex to a fake is beyond me.

[nektar]

they are almost the same!!!!!!this is insane!!!!!!!!

[DadsWatch72]

"Why does anyone want to compare their real Rolex to a fake is beyond me."
Good question. I personally want to see what NOT to buy so I don't loose $9,250 for a fakoroonie. I can't count how many times I have seen threads/posts giving very valuable advice to those of us who are shopping or considering a certain watch to purchase. And I don't think the comparison is a "Pepsi Challenge". Its meant to be a warning.

[sushisummo]

That is definetly top notch fake. Even this one have a maxi dial on it. I've seen a fake LV but with the regular skinny dial. You can spot it right away but this one is a really good fake.

Thanks for the info.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by sushisummo

That is definetly top notch fake. Even this one have a maxi dial on it. I've seen a fake LV but with the regular skinny dial. You can spot it right away but this one is a really good fake.

Thanks for the info.

Thanks again, and it is a top notched fake, as a matter of fact, it's kind of scary how close they got it!

[kandyman]

Wow, it's amazing how good the fake is. Being a newbie it would be hard to spot. Only real guarentee is to buy from a AD.

[Newless]

Originally Posted by stom_m3

This is a good assessment of things. I travel to asia often too and they were knocking off Bell & Ross, Vacheron, Rolex, Cartier, Tag, U-Boat, AP, Breguet and about everything else under the sun. I'm heading back over there in 2 weeks. For this trip, I'll be going to Malaysia, HK and Korea. I'm sure I'll be seeing plenty of fakes along the way.

I'm hoping that Rolex and others will start incorporating harder features to copy or processes that are naturally more expensive to do. This will temper some of the fakes. Actually, come to think of it, the fake Tags look fake (funny statement). Also, usually the chronograph watches don't function as chronographs. But I have seen some very good copies.

I'm curious if someone has tried to copy the new GMT iic (the watch that I personally have)? It would seem that it would be difficult to re-create the look of the ceramic bezel. Guess I'll see in a couple of weeks.

There are plenty of GMT IIc copies out there. They don't re-create the look of ceramic, they use ceramic.
Scary huh?

[Newless]

Originally Posted by Colnago

These guys are getting better by the day....where I work there are lots on the go....a few of us have the real deal and it scares us all, but on the other hand there's much less chance of getting mugged because the muggers don't know how to tell (I hope!!!) - recently saw and held a Daytona.......watch head I have to admit would have fooled me, everything was right, chrono worked properly, 28800 beater....perfect....but it had the new style bracelet, the same as on my GMTIIc, the spring loaded part of the clasp was wrong...other than that....what other word desribes it better....scary...if I had not had my GMT with the new clasp I would have accepted it as the real deal.....we are not supposed to discuss fakes here but in reallity I would far rather know what is out there and how to spot it

Exactly, the more you know about the issue the better.
I don't think it's something to be ignored.

[Newless]

There are better fakes out there that have the accurate flutes on the crown and the rounded corners on the extended link. So those aren't always a reliable way to tell the fake from the gen.

[Newless]

Originally Posted by carbon6

Kudos to Space Dweller and txrob779 for sharing some valuable information. Great posts! The weight of the fakes don't feel right when handled. Also, when you unscrew the crown and pull it out to position three to adjust the time, rotating the crown clockwise will advance the time forward. On the fakes, rotating the crown counter clockwise advances the time forward. The fake movements are opposite the real deal.

Not true. There are ETA movenments out there right now, in fakes, that have proper time advance.
Also there are fakes that weigh EXACTLY the same as the gens when put on a scale. Especially the Submariners.

[Gantrell]

Wow, awsome job, thanks for being so thourough. great pictures.

[nektar]

really excellent pictures.. to me it is impossible to distinguish the real one.. tha s why i bought mine from ad..

[djhiram]

It's SCARY how these replicas are just getting closer and closer to the real thing. I went to see my dad this weekend and he was wearing an LV that I had never seen him wear. I only found out it was a fake after he told me. I consider myself someone who is a little better then average at spotting a fake and this thing fooled the heck out of me - even the thumb recess was right on point, which is usually how I can easily spot them. I compared the sweep of the second hand to my SD and was AMAZED at how close it was. It scary.....

[Jet]

Originally Posted by nektarios

really excellent pictures.. to me it is impossible to distinguish the real one.. tha s why i bought mine from ad..

Yup! 4 of my 5 were purchased new from an AD. The 5th purchased from my daughter's godfather - with box & papers of course.

The quality of counterfeits are only getting better. It's tough to be able to distinguish what is genuine & what is fake.

I will only purchase from an AD or one of the reputable dealers here on TRF (w/ excellent reviews).

[Colnago]

Can you imagine.....Explorer I.....with no date complication, no cyclops lens, no rotating bezel, no 24 hour hand, no fancy dial writing or sub-dials......fitted with a 28800 movement.....truly almost impossible to differentiate from the real deal........they are among us......I've had one in my hand out here in "former soviet bloc, pure as the driven slush-land"......scary is the only word.....

[Raam]

Its awhile been, what up guys!

nice post Many Thks SPACE-DWELLER!

the fake is so alike..dang! its scary ..LOL!

To be safe, i getting one from an AD for sure..

[tcd_psp]

im gonna save some money n get tthe fake one and nobody except you lot will be able to tell! j/k

[ral]

Originally Posted by mfer

It is b/c this post is old as dirt. Rules changed. I think this should be locked. Why does anyone want to compare their real Rolex to a fake is beyond me.

Sorry, I was the one who dug up this old post.

Originally Posted by DadsWatch72

"Why does anyone want to compare their real Rolex to a fake is beyond me."
Good question. I personally want to see what NOT to buy so I don't loose $9,250 for a fakoroonie. I can't count how many times I have seen threads/posts giving very valuable advice to those of us who are shopping or considering a certain watch to purchase. And I don't think the comparison is a "Pepsi Challenge". Its meant to be a warning.

I was looking at a ND Sub for sale a local forum, selling for U$2,750... no box and papers so I wanted some pointers on what to look out for. By the way, here is the watch in case anyone has an opinion.

[padi56]

This thread should never have been resurrected now closed and locked for good.