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Old 5 August 2008, 05:04 AM   #1
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Rolex bands too large.

Hello everyone. I am new to the forums here. My name is Brett and I have a SS Submariner and a SS Explorer II. I also have very small wrists. This is causing an issue for me and am wondering if i can get some guidance.

I wear my watches on my left arm. I have taken all of the links out of the section of band that extends from the bottom of the watch and a few out of the back section as well. The problem is, to make the watch small enough I have had to take a disproportionate amount of links from the bottom (front if looking at your wrist) section and now the bottom section is longer than the top (back) section. this causes the watch face to be facing away from me when i attempt to read it.

I know this is kind of hard to follow but basically the clasp and watch face are closer in the back and in the front and this makes the watch face sit on the back of my wrist. It doesn't look like i can remove any more links from the front section. Any ideas? Thank you.
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Old 5 August 2008, 05:09 AM   #2
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Your option isn't a fun one. You need to go to a qualified watch maker. They'll remove one of the permanent links (permanently!!!) by cutting it off. You can they add your adjustable "screw" links back on to connect the clasp.

Another option is to buy and aftermarket band and do the same. I'm doing that now, so my GF can wear my sub on the weekends (if she's good )

I would go for the later option as cutting your Rolex band greatly decreases it's value!
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Old 5 August 2008, 05:20 AM   #3
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Welcome to the forum! There is a very easy fix for your problem, you can have a watchmaker drill out one of the permanent links. I have seen this done before and it looks great, but I would first consult your AD for a good watchmaker that is trustworthy to perform this....or there are plenty of watchmakers in Florida, possibly another forum member can refer you to one. Good luck!
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Old 5 August 2008, 05:25 AM   #4
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The other possible option is to find a new-style clasp for the Daytona or GMT II-c which are designed without the "half-link" and allow for better clasp centering on the underside of the slimmer wrist (check Timezone and Watchnet for possible listings).
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Old 5 August 2008, 08:01 AM   #5
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The permanent links just pull apart........although it should be done by a professional to minimise any possible misadventure..

I don't see how this could possibly devalue or damage your watch in any way..... it will just make it fit, the same as you would with any watch.

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Old 5 August 2008, 02:32 PM   #6
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Thanks everyone for the replies!

Wow tools! I had no idea. How would you recommend going about this? Can you put them back together easily? should I use some sort of adherent? Thanks!
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The permanent links just pull apart........although it should be done by a professional to minimise any possible misadventure..

I don't see how this could possibly devalue or damage your watch in any way..... it will just make it fit, the same as you would with any watch.

Nice photo illustration of the removed "permanent" link.
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Old 6 August 2008, 03:05 AM   #9
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Wow tools! I had no idea. How would you recommend going about this? Can you put them back together easily? should I use some sort of adherent? Thanks!

I've seen them pulled apart with a pair of pliers......these are usually thrown away.. That is why I say take it to a professional... You can slide, and then press a knife blade or thin wedge between the links and they will pull apart too, but this usually grooves the inside edge.

They just press back together the opposite way they came apart, if necessary, and a bit of loctite will hold them securely..

The link removed can also be replaced by a screw type link and nobody will ever know the difference..

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Old 6 August 2008, 03:22 AM   #10
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saw your problem, i also have rather small arms but have from the 6 o'clock side, only 5 links. for the 12 side then take out one, maybe two one the other side to have 5 showing from past the end of the cover on the x2. if you need a bit more from that said, it might still work. as well, the inside of my arm is meatier, and i have always worn my sub, gmt and x on the inside, feels more comfortable. hope something works, and it should!
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Old 6 August 2008, 03:54 AM   #11
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Not sure if it's a trick of the light, but the top link looks bent on that photo of the removed link. Be careful!

I am jealous, removing links is usually free or cheap. I have fat wrists and had to BUY two extra links !! Next time you are buying a watch, give me a shout, we'll buy the same type and you can give me your excess links ;)
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Old 6 August 2008, 04:06 AM   #12
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This can't be an isolated thing.....you would think that Rolex would make..or at least make available...smaller bracelets. I think it would be a moderately large market....and would probably put their watches on more people that normally can't wear their watch.....
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Old 7 August 2008, 02:54 AM   #13
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My suggestion do not go the cutting route of the band. Buy a knockoff band, get it adjusted properly and put the Rolex band aside for future sale etc.

There are knockoffs that resemble the rolex bands prety close.
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Old 7 August 2008, 03:02 AM   #14
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I've dealt with this before and have removed links for chicks with smaller wrists who want to wear Subs or Daytonas even. And yes the permanent links can be replaced if you want them back, but for removal you're gonna need 2 good sets of pliers and lots of care. Maybe you shouldn't do this yourself since you could end up hurting yourself. I've busted my own face trying to pry things apart, many times.
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Old 7 August 2008, 03:50 AM   #15
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Welcome along, why not just put a pair of thick socks over your hands and wrist and, hey presto sorted.
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My suggestion do not go the cutting route of the band. Buy a knockoff band, get it adjusted properly and put the Rolex band aside for future sale etc.

There are knockoffs that resemble the rolex bands prety close.
I'm doing this, but not with a knockoff. No crown on this clasp I bought, but rather just a quality oyster bracelet, SEL, designed for Rolex Subs. I'll get it hopefully in the next week. I'll take some pics and report back on the progress and what I had to do to get it off!
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Old 15 August 2008, 03:38 AM   #17
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Does the Explorer II have the same bracelet as a Date 1501?

Mine has a 78350 19mm and I've been looking for "just one more" link to make it a little looser.
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Old 15 August 2008, 05:59 AM   #18
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Does the Explorer II have the same bracelet as a Date 1501?

Mine has a 78350 19mm and I've been looking for "just one more" link to make it a little looser.
You can order another link from your AD pretty cheap, around $50.
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Old 15 August 2008, 06:28 AM   #19
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There was a thread about this two days ago, and I replied. I have removed permanent links several times. Follow the link, and read throught the comments.

- It is good advice to go to an AD or RSC if you are not confident in what your doing.

Read my comments in the following thread:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=48562

Perhaps I should ask one of the moderators if we should post a description permanently somewhere?

It is worth mentioning that the new solid oyster bracelet have better possibilities to adjust. I have an Air-King 114200 that fits perfectly just removing removable links. Same with Daytona, and other with the new bracelet.

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Old 15 August 2008, 07:20 AM   #20
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Another thought to lessen the probablility of damaging the links while pulling them apart is to wrap copper strips around the edges and grasp the copper which should buffer the steel of the pliars and link respectively.
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You can order another link from your AD pretty cheap, around $50.
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I probably could get one ordered at my local AD but if I could find a link of similar vintage to my watch, around 1970, I'd be happier.

My AD also won't sell parts to anyone as far as I know. To keep up the appearance of "getting your money's worth" it would have to take at least 2 weeks and cost $35 for installing.

I do have a Rolex style straight slot screwdriver that fits the screw perfectly and wouldn't mind doing it myself.
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The permanent links just pull apart........although it should be done by a professional to minimise any possible misadventure..

I don't see how this could possibly devalue or damage your watch in any way..... it will just make it fit, the same as you would with any watch.

I just removed a permanent link from my 14060 tonight so now I'm just like you Larry, 4 links on the 6 side. It fits much better now
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