TempoKing is Horrible, Beware!

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

Jeff, the advertisement seemed to have a red sticker on the clasp - was there one when you received it?

Its just a reflection

[tike71]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Who us occam


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He's referring to Occam's razor

[brandrea]

I hate to hear things like this.

Oh well, life goes on I suppose ... but this brings new meaning to buy the seller.

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by tike71

He's referring to Occam's razor

Ah. I use Schick.


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[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by brandrea

buy the seller.

This . Buying a bracelet from overseas, crossing many posts, customs, etc. Not real excellent.


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[mkruger311]

Even with the listing pictures being overexposed, no visible wear is shown on the inside of the links. This is clearly a different bracelet than Jeff received. It is highly un-likely that a customs agent tampered with the bracelet and swapped it out.

It's sad to see a seller throw their reputation out the door over a minimal amount. I would be sure the seller's account was not hacked.

[Jfullm42]

Originally Posted by mkruger311

Even with the listing pictures being overexposed, no visible wear is shown on the inside of the links. This is clearly a different bracelet than Jeff received. It is highly un-likely that a customs agent tampered with the bracelet and swapped it out.

It's sad to see a seller throw their reputation out the door over a minimal amount. I would be sure the seller's account was not hacked.

That is what I keep coming back to and why I posted if anyone has talked with him in some time. I really hope that this was just a scammer who hacked into his account, but I am afraid I will probably never know.

[whatsthetime?]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Makes me think a 3rd party was involved here (and not a wayward customs agent. Has anyone actually heard of that happening?). Thats the only logical explanation for all of this.

Originally Posted by mkruger311

It is highly un-likely that a customs agent tampered with the bracelet and swapped it out.

Why not a customs agent or courier being the 3rd party? Because there's no corruption going on with either?
I very highly doubt that. I'm not defending anyone, it's just a very good possibility.

[ink3027]

Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

Why not a customs agent or courier being the 3rd party? Because there's no corruption going on with either?
I very highly doubt that. I'm not defending anyone, it's just a very good possibility.

The customs agent hypothesis has come up a few times now, and I’m not quite understanding how the mechanics of that would work. Would you be able to walk me through it in detail why it would be a very good possibility?

At least the way I’m thinking about it now, the customs agent would have to receive the package, open it, recognize a Rolex 78360 Oyster bracelet, happen to have a 1.8mm tip screwdriver AND spare Oyster links in his pocket, swap the bracelet links (while leaving the clasp), and seal the package back up so it looks like it hasn’t been tampered with. Is that the general idea?

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by ink3027

The customs agent hypothesis has come up a few times now, and I’m not quite understanding how the mechanics of that would work. Would you be able to walk me through it in detail why it would be a very good possibility?

At least the way I’m thinking about it now, the customs agent would have to receive the package, open it, recognize a Rolex 78360 Oyster bracelet, happen to have a 1.8mm tip screwdriver AND spare Oyster links in his pocket, swap the bracelet links (while leaving the clasp), and seal the package back up so it looks like it hasn’t been tampered with. Is that the general idea?

Exactly. Not to mention all the CCTV he/she has to evade. Or the metal detectors. Not going to happen. Some common sense is required here.

[VonSlingshot]

I can tell you that there are no blind spots on our air side operations with respect to security.....
The whole rogue customs guy theory is a good one...... lolwut.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Who us occam


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Occam’s razor
“~the simplest explanation is most often the answer”

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by subtona

Occam’s razor
“~the simplest explanation is most often the answer”

Ahh that’s cool. Good to learn something new on a Sunday am!


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[-dustin]

Hm. Curious move in banning the seller without a resolution. At least in a public forum. Hopefully someone figured something out behind the scenes. As I see it, there’s still no way to definitively say who was right and and who was wrong.

[whatsthetime?]

Originally Posted by ink3027

Would you be able to walk me through it in detail why it would be a very good possibility?

So the customs agent can't hold the package for another day, do what he has to do, package it up and send it along its way? Also, 1 link was missing, so there would be no link in the agents pocket.

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Exactly. Not to mention all the CCTV he/she has to evade. Or the metal detectors. Not going to happen. Some common sense is required here.

Actually, some common sense is needed here for you to understand what goes on in the real world.

Originally Posted by VonSlingshot

I can tell you that there are no blind spots on our air side operations with respect to security.....
The whole rogue customs guy theory is a good one...... lolwut.

Open your eyes and take every aspect into consideration. Don't be idiotic, anything can happen anywhere at anytime.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

So the customs agent can't hold the package for another day, do what he has to do, package it up and send it along its way? Also, 1 link was missing, so there would be no link in the agents pocket.

Actually, some common sense is needed here for you to understand what goes on in the real world.

Open your eyes and take every aspect into consideration. Don't be idiotic, anything can happen anywhere at anytime.

Chillout with the name calling, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even your horrible one.....

[rootbeer7]

I posted this earlier, but there is reference to TempoKing in Florida as well as Greece?

[ink3027]

Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

So the customs agent can't hold the package for another day, do what he has to do, package it up and send it along its way? Also, 1 link was missing, so there would be no link in the agents pocket.

I'm confused by the bold part, what do you mean?

[Jfullm42]

Originally Posted by -dustin

Hm. Curious move in banning the seller without a resolution. At least in a public forum. Hopefully someone figured something out behind the scenes. As I see it, there’s still no way to definitively say who was right and and who was wrong.

I was in communication with a mod on here right after I posted the thread. I wasn't made privy to the banning, communication, or possible lack there of, but when someone is banned it typically means something

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Chillout with the name calling, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even your horrible one.....

Jason, you have away with words

[whatsthetime?]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Chillout with the name calling, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even your horrible one.....

lolwut, this isn't name calling? I'm pretty sure it is. And as you mentioned, everyone is entitled to their opinion (which this isn't mine, but rather a thought) so don't dismiss it or knock it. You must live in fairyland. Open your eye to all aspects that go on outside of fairyland.

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

lolwut, this isn't name calling? I'm pretty sure it is. And as you mentioned, everyone is entitled to their opinion (which this isn't mine, but rather a thought) so don't dismiss it or knock it. You must live in fairyland. Open your eye to all aspects that go on outside of fairyland.

Unless you have proof this has happened you're just peddling conspiracy theories

[whatsthetime?]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Unless you have proof this has happened you're just peddling conspiracy theories

Of course I don't have proof. This was just a thought, as mentioned before.

[shaunylw]

The small bit of positive in this story is the buyer can get that bracelet reworked by Mike at rolliworks and have something that looks brand new to wear. Or, sell it for $300-400 and recoup half the cash. A total bummer, but not a complete loss.


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[Wahlberg]

I've been following this topic since the start, really wondered how this would play out.

The customs agent swapping it out sounds too far fetched. Imagine having another one ready or even working on it and replacing the links.

Originally Posted by shaunylw

The small bit of positive in this story is the buyer can get that bracelet reworked by Mike at rolliworks and have something that looks brand new to wear. Or, sell it for $300-400 and recoup half the cash. A total bummer, but not a complete loss.


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Are you sure? It looks like actual pieces of metal/steel have been cut off?

[Jfullm42]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

The small bit of positive in this story is the buyer can get that bracelet reworked by Mike at rolliworks and have something that looks brand new to wear. Or, sell it for $300-400 and recoup half the cash. A total bummer, but not a complete loss.


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Thanks for this, the clasp is probably worth $250, end links $125, and the links attached to the perm links that are trashed (3) of them are $40 each. So best case a loss of $330 +/- I'm expecting closer to $350-400, but it is what it is.

I already talked with Mike at Rolliworks and he quoted me 3 hours at $90 an hour for welding on the perm links. IMO it isn't worth throwing good money at bad.

I haven't started parting any of it out yet, or for that matter even touched it yet to clean it or remove any links because I didn't want to compromise any of the photos as I wanted it to stay in the same condition as I received it, but I guess now that he has been banned I guess I should.

Maybe I'll wait a few more days, but at this point I guess it won't matter

[Vishy26]

This customs nonsense is too far fetched

[42itus]

Originally Posted by Jfullm42

Thanks for this, the clasp is probably worth $250, end links $125, and the links attached to the perm links that are trashed (3) of them are $40 each. So best case a loss of $330 +/- I'm expecting closer to $350-400, but it is what it is.

I already talked with Mike at Rolliworks and he quoted me 3 hours at $90 an hour for welding on the perm links. IMO it isn't worth throwing good money at bad.

I haven't started parting any of it out yet, or for that matter even touched it yet to clean it or remove any links because I didn't want to compromise any of the photos as I wanted it to stay in the same condition as I received it, but I guess now that he has been banned I guess I should.

Maybe I'll wait a few more days, but at this point I guess it won't matter

This really sucks Jeff. Of course the monetary hit hurts but more than that I hate the way this spiraled down so quickly. I’m glad the seller is banned but it’s still puzzling to me. You had every reason to trade in confidence but here you are. I wish you the best with recouping as much as you can.


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[Vishy26]

Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

So the customs agent can't hold the package for another day, do what he has to do, package it up and send it along its way? Also, 1 link was missing, so there would be no link in the agents pocket.

Actually, some common sense is needed here for you to understand what goes on in the real world.

Open your eyes and take every aspect into consideration. Don't be idiotic, anything can happen anywhere at anytime.

Come on my friend, buyer’s got a dud and seller’s a long time member here, many consider him a friend. An unfortunate situation overall, far from a resolution. Don’t troll this thread

[dgdjr]

Jeff -

You are an honest buyer as well as seller and I am very sorry that this
happened.

Don Duffee