The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Old 13 May 2019, 02:50 PM   #1
Lol-x
Facilitator
 
Lol-x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Real Name: Steve
Location: Omnipresent
Posts: 33,227
Best Ceramic Radiomir

Ceramic Panerais don't seem to get a lot of love, but I guess in general ceramic watches are not particularly enthused over.

It may the price or the fragility of the case to dropping and the difficulty or impossibility to remove scratches/marks.

Anyway I was just thinking is the Pam 505 to be preferred to the Pam 384. It seems that the automatic movement adds significantly to the thickness of the watch...:banhead:

Anyway let me know what is your pick?
__________________

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. ~Abraham Lincoln
Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy

ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim
Lol-x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 May 2019, 03:23 PM   #2
Cru Jones
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
Cru Jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 34,469
643 or 292 for me.

Steve, FYI, the 505 is composite, not ceramic.
Cru Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 May 2019, 06:11 PM   #3
Lol-x
Facilitator
 
Lol-x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Real Name: Steve
Location: Omnipresent
Posts: 33,227
OK thanks, sorry for the mix-up.
To me composite is even better than ceramic.

I always thought composite was carbon fibre but according to Panerai composite is:

Quote:
The Panerai Composite case material is a synthetic ceramic that is the result of an electrochemical ceramization process of aluminium.
So its a kind of ceramic/aluminium
__________________

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. ~Abraham Lincoln
Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy

ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim
Lol-x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 May 2019, 09:37 PM   #4
erik asher
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: New York
Posts: 273
If you want the most versatility, I would go with a PVD DLC, which is a coating over TI. These watches are lite and less fragile (although they can still be scratched)
erik asher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 May 2019, 09:45 PM   #5
Cru Jones
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
Cru Jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 34,469
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lol-x View Post
OK thanks, sorry for the mix-up.
To me composite is even better than ceramic.

I always thought composite was carbon fibre but according to Panerai composite is:



So its a kind of ceramic/aluminium

It's worth keeping in mind that Panerai's composite is a thin layer of material on top of aluminum, so a significant scratch will reveal the bright material underneath and it can't be fixed.

That being said, it seems that it is pretty tough and the color is really nice. If you want more info, you could consider contacting Nick ("nick c"), as he has one and likes it a lot.

As for carbon fiber, Panerai makes watches with something they refer to as "Carbotech". From memory, no Radiomirs are, or have been, made from Carbotech.

Cru Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 May 2019, 10:09 PM   #6
Lol-x
Facilitator
 
Lol-x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Real Name: Steve
Location: Omnipresent
Posts: 33,227
Thanks guys, that's great information

__________________

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. ~Abraham Lincoln
Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy

ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim
Lol-x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13 May 2019, 10:41 PM   #7
nick c
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 26,846
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cru Jones View Post
643 or 292 for me.

Steve, FYI, the 505 is composite, not ceramic.


Right on Crucomposite 505


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
nick c is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14 May 2019, 03:04 AM   #8
synequano
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 413
Go with 339 instead



Both of these are composite,I like the matte brown color
synequano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14 May 2019, 11:00 PM   #9
Lol-x
Facilitator
 
Lol-x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Real Name: Steve
Location: Omnipresent
Posts: 33,227
Quote:
Originally Posted by synequano View Post
Go with 339 instead



Both of these are composite,I like the matte brown color
Wow those are totally SWEET!! rocks off cool watches!!!

I do require a date feature. I would like a carbon case watch as that is something I've never had before.

Does anyone have experience with a carbon fiber case Panerai?????
__________________

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. ~Abraham Lincoln
Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy

ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim
Lol-x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15 May 2019, 11:10 AM   #10
synequano
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 413
I have never bought any carbotech as I don’t like how it looks (and the plasticky feel) but I’ve seen some users with dent on their carbotech case/CG
synequano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15 May 2019, 12:03 PM   #11
MP5
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
MP5's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ATX
Posts: 2,881
Radiomirs are my favorite but... It depends on the thickness of the case. The 45 and 47mm manual winds are perfect in keeping the feel perfect. I did not get that radiomir feel from any of the automatics. Felt weird, anyway my 2 cents
MP5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 May 2019, 09:42 AM   #12
itsjknight
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 353
I was recently looking at a carbontech at my local AD and noticed a big chip taken out of the crown guard. Probably sloppy handling by the store staff but still it made me second guess getting a carbontech.
itsjknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 May 2019, 05:00 PM   #13
Lol-x
Facilitator
 
Lol-x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Real Name: Steve
Location: Omnipresent
Posts: 33,227
Quote:
Originally Posted by MP5 View Post
Radiomirs are my favorite but... It depends on the thickness of the case. The 45 and 47mm manual winds are perfect in keeping the feel perfect. I did not get that radiomir feel from any of the automatics. Felt weird, anyway my 2 cents
Thanks for that information, wrist feel is very important, maybe in this case one has to sacrifice the auto-wind and date feature...
The PAM339 with an 8 day power reserve is pretty cool.

Quote:
Originally Posted by itsjknight View Post
I was recently looking at a carbontech at my local AD and noticed a big chip taken out of the crown guard. Probably sloppy handling by the store staff but still it made me second guess getting a carbontech.
That sounds scary but as has been said there is no carbon Radiomir so I guess its not an option for me.
__________________

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. ~Abraham Lincoln
Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy

ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim
Lol-x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 May 2019, 06:44 PM   #14
Cru Jones
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
Cru Jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 34,469
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lol-x View Post
Thanks for that information, wrist feel is very important, maybe in this case one has to sacrifice the auto-wind and date feature...
The PAM339 with an 8 day power reserve is pretty cool.

Radiomirs with the wire lugs are in their "purest"/"historical" form with manual and no date. For example, the 232. Going for a Rad, in my opinion, merits going for the purest form. The added benefit is a thinner case. Anyway, depends on what you want.
Cru Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 May 2019, 10:20 PM   #15
mfer
"TRF" Member
 
mfer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Real Name: Mik
Location: USA
Posts: 13,723
The 643 wears amazing (thinner) and has that hobnail dial. It REALLY suits the ceramic case well.

I have had zero durability issues. Thing looks like the day I got it.

__________________
member#3242
mfer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Coronet

Takuya Watches

Bobs Watches

Asset Appeal

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

DavidSW Watches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.