Please watch out!

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by taylor

You claim to be from the United States. Yet, you do not speak proper English!

What the hell's that supposed to mean, buddy? Vanessa is a very long standing member of TRF and very respected too, I might add.

Where the heck do you get off with a remark like that? There are a lot of people on this forum to whom English is only a second lanaguage; yet they make a concentrated effort to post and enjoy the wonderful atmosphere that prevails here.

You might want to rethink what you post and what you say.

JJ

[YuppieKid]

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[Letsgodiving]

Vanessa, when you say holes do you mean indentations. I just want to clarify that the links are not hollow. I would hate to start that whole debate again. Or maybe I'm unknowingly instigating it. Great post btw.

[Art161]

Originally Posted by oztimelord

Cardinal Rule - If you can't afford to get it serviced don't buy the watch, or in my case less watches

Good advice if you are buying a new watch. But sometimes the price for service escalates way beyond what you might have thought. The Rolex I purchased from an AD in 1971 cost about $200. Yes, there has been a general increase in prices since then, but I think the cost of Rolexes and the service costs have risen more than the general rate of inflation.

[Dalton]

Hi Vanessa. I'm rolex trained in the art of refinishing and I know what you mean. I tend to fix a lot of people's mistakes. But it is important to know that RSC is not the only option. There are independents, like myself, who do know what they are doing and are aware of what these watches are worth. I think what's important is, to do your research before leaving your watch with someone. To me RSC is not the almighty. I've repaired their mistakes too. So yes watchout!

Now regarding the worn down Prez:Tell your client that those holes can be filled and reshaped with solid gold. All is not lost. Yes this is terrible but I've seen worse. That's my professional opinion on his watch.

[rmcarlton]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

What the hell's that supposed to mean, buddy? Vanessa is a very long standing member of TRF and very respected too, I might add.

Where the heck do you get off with a remark like that? There are a lot of people on this forum to whom English is only a second lanaguage; yet they make a concentrated effort to post and enjoy the wonderful atmosphere that prevails here.

You might want to rethink what you post and what you say.

JJ

Here here.

[Vanessa CW21]

"You're welcome" to everybody that thanked me!
And thank you all for the great compliments!

Originally Posted by jasonbellevue

Hey Vanessa, hope you and the Camry's doing fine.

We're doing great! We already spent over 18,000 miles together!

Originally Posted by Jedi

Vanessa, doesn't Rolex provide authorised watchmakers with a diagram of how to polish/brush the various models?

We do receive training on polishing, yes! They want us to do it their way, and their way only! Which makes sense of course!

Originally Posted by taylor

You claim to be from the United States. Yet, you do not speak proper English!

I live in the USA, yet I'm not born here. English is my 4th language, so I apologize if it's not up to your standards!

Originally Posted by acce1999

P.S. Any opportunities to do more measurements on caseback thickness?

Haven't had anything different in yet. I also kinda forgot Sorry!

Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

Vanessa, when you say holes do you mean indentations. I just want to clarify that the links are not hollow. I would hate to start that whole debate again. Or maybe I'm unknowingly instigating it. Great post btw.

No, I did mean "holes" since those older style president bracelets ARE hollow.
They don't "look" hollow from the side like the jubilee's, but they are hollow in the middle. The newer style (since around the year 2000) are solid through and through.

Originally Posted by Dalton

Hi Vanessa. I'm rolex trained in the art of refinishing and I know what you mean. I tend to fix a lot of people's mistakes. But it is important to know that RSC is not the only option. There are independents, like myself, who do know what they are doing and are aware of what these watches are worth. I think what's important is, to do your research before leaving your watch with someone. To me RSC is not the almighty. I've repaired their mistakes too. So yes watchout!

I don't work for RSC either, so I agree with you that there are really good independents out there (I'm one of them). I'm just warning people to check references, or to call Rolex when in doubt.
I've read great things about you, and I would love to receive your information via pm, so I can send potential clients to you!

[stevemulholland3]

everyone,I am sure taylor did not mean any disrespect-most likely it came off wrong.I have had several conversations with him and he has always been very respectful and polite.so please reserve judgment until he responds please.
thanks,
steve
p.s. very good post venessa-I always love reading what you have to say-is there a picture to go with that lovely prose?

[f16570]

Interesting, you buy cheap, you pay DEAR.

[mailman]

Excellent post as always Vanessa. Thank you You're a great person and a huge asset here

[CPTL]

Fantastic post, Vanessa--thanks for the info.

[Parachrom]

There is always someone willing to charge less for a service, to be cheaper or less expensive that their competition. In the end you end up disapointed and having to spend a greater amount to have it done properly by the proper people. No one ever regretted buying quality and service. Fortunately for me i can send my Rolex directly to RSc and get cost as being a jewellry store, others are not that fortunate. While there are some AD where I am and some darn good ones, I cannot help but send my watch to Rolex itself. call it being anal if you wish, but they built it, they have every conceivable tool available to them. Until four year ago, there was a Polish gentleman at Rolex who was one of their top watchmakers. I would send it to him directly, and it always came back top drawer work. In return I would show him where my favourite Muskie hole was so we could fish together. Good deal I thought

[gmt master x]

Thanks V...

[1MAC]

So, about how much 18k gold did this guy manage to steal by polishing that watch so aggressively?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Dalton

Hi Vanessa. I'm rolex trained in the art of refinishing and I know what you mean. I tend to fix a lot of people's mistakes. But it is important to know that RSC is not the only option. There are independents, like myself, who do know what they are doing and are aware of what these watches are worth. I think what's important is, to do your research before leaving your watch with someone. To me RSC is not the almighty. I've repaired their mistakes too. So yes watchout!

Now regarding the worn down Prez:Tell your client that those holes can be filled and reshaped with solid gold. All is not lost. Yes this is terrible but I've seen worse. That's my professional opinion on his watch.

Could not agree more but when you find a good watchmaker finisher, treat him/her like your best mate.

[Brcmpbl]

I can't understand why anyone would drop several thousand for a watch and then cheap out on having the thing serviced. It is a ridiculous thing to do, regardless of whether or not RSC prices are inflated or not.

[CVerKuilen]

I cannot disagree with any of you who decide to send to RSC for service. I am a watchmaker myself, and when (not if) I purchase my Sub it will only go to Rolex for service. The only reason I say this is because of the quality of refinishing on the flat surfaces on the sides of the case. Those of you who have had a professional series watch serviced by anyone, were the sides as flat as a brand new?

However, there are AD's out there that have well-trained, honest watchmakers. Look for someone with a WOSTEP certification if possible, the next best is the CW21 from AWCI. And as always, be sure they have been trained by Rolex on caliber specifics and refinishing.

[DSJ]

That is painful. I did the same thing with car repair last year. I paid a neighborhood guy to replace the differential input shaft seal, and he overtightened things which forced a rear-end overhaul with new ring/pinion/joint 5 miles later...

[timetravel125]

May I humbly ask, and with due respect, what is your definition of "Proper English?"

And, perhaps, you should be reminded that the United States is a county of many people and cultures. And, not all people living in the U.S. are excellent users of your "Proper English."

Awaiting your explanation of "Proper English," please?

Cheers.

Originally Posted by taylor

You claim to be from the United States. Yet, you do not speak proper English!

[oneillba]

Thanks Vanessa, what a shame for that poor fellow!

[Dazza]

comment on proper English
the Americans never use it nor do 3/4 of the English
so no one really has the right to comment unless they use it themselves 100% of the time


mu thoughts are that this guy is making a mint out of ripping gold off people's watches surley in the US you have to have public liability insurance and a duty of care ... the 'repairer' should be held accountable to bringing the watch back to original condition
new case new strap

[Vanessa CW21]

Originally Posted by Dazza

comment on proper English
the Americans never use it nor do 3/4 of the English
so no one really has the right to comment unless they use it themselves 100% of the time


mu thoughts are that this guy is making a mint out of ripping gold off people's watches surley in the US you have to have public liability insurance and a duty of care ... the 'repairer' should be held accountable to bringing the watch back to original condition
new case new strap

Oh wow Dazza.... I had forgotten all about this thread, with my lack of proper English!
Thanks for reminding me....

Welcome!!

[deserted]

Vanessa i like your style!

[Vanessa CW21]

Originally Posted by deserted

Vanessa i like your style!

Thank you sir!

[Dazza]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Oh wow Dazza.... I had forgotten all about this thread, with my lack of proper English!
Thanks for reminding me....

Welcome!!

ty
with your lack of proper english can you help me on my other thread in this forum please Vanessa ;)

I am sure I will decypher it ;)

[Rikki]

Last week 2 Presidents came in one was partially fake the othe was amazingly fake they used a 3135 movement instead of a 3155 and glued the day wheel to the dial from underneath unbelievable I sent him on his way with my condolences he paid 15,000 dollars for it ouch. Rik

[HDHNTER]

Great post, thanks!

[hsfrank]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

What the hell's that supposed to mean, buddy? Vanessa is a very long standing member of TRF and very respected too, I might add.

Where the heck do you get off with a remark like that? There are a lot of people on this forum to whom English is only a second lanaguage; yet they make a concentrated effort to post and enjoy the wonderful atmosphere that prevails here.

You might want to rethink what you post and what you say.

JJ

...and if one is to be accurate, the phrase should be "yet, your written remarks are improper or ill constructed." Thus people who live in glass houses....

[BarkMaster]

Will the spelling and grammar police please take a break?

(I speak Texan and often fail to proofread! lol)

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by Rikki

Last week 2 Presidents came in one was partially fake the othe was amazingly fake they used a 3135 movement instead of a 3155 and glued the day wheel to the dial from underneath unbelievable I sent him on his way with my condolences he paid 15,000 dollars for it ouch. Rik

OUCH is right.