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TswaneNguni · 13 September 2020, 12:54 AM

Will the new OP 41 release have an effect on the demand / sales/ availability of the DJ41 ?

Stevec14 · 13 September 2020, 01:06 AM

It’s possible, but the DJ is more classic Rolex where you can have jubilee and fluted with more classic dual colours.

The OP may take a few sales away but is likely aimed at a slightly different audience.

While I don’t like all the colours, I think the OP’s will do really well esp at the price point.

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ltmgeller · 13 September 2020, 01:08 AM

I don't think it will, you either want a date or you don't. I don't think the size will change that.

101031-28 · 13 September 2020, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ltmgeller

I don't think it will, you either want a date or you don't. I don't think the size will change that.

100% this

doramas · 13 September 2020, 01:42 AM

Impossible. The Datejust is the best selling Rolex in the world.
What happens on the forum is another matter, but this is not the real world.

Max 66 · 13 September 2020, 01:57 AM

Eventually the OP 39 could have affected the DJ41, that despite the code (Datejust 41) has a real case diameter of 39.5 mm.
In my opinion the Oyster Perpetual and the Datejust are simply different types of watches and each od them has its own pluses and minuses

zjd168 · 13 September 2020, 02:05 AM

it will likely cannibalize dj with lower price point and dial color offerings, Rolex can afford it for now as almost all SS DJ are in high demand so the impact is minimal. Rolex definitely hopes the OP will add new customers in stead of at the expense of DJ.

Gerardus · 13 September 2020, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Will the new OP 41 release have an effect on the demand / sales/ availability of the DJ41 ?

For sure the new OP line will eat a piece of the DJ41 pie.

escobar144 · 13 September 2020, 02:56 AM

I have a feeling we can expect some changed to the DJ41 line very soon. More dial options, maybe even a bigger case again

JRell · 13 September 2020, 02:58 AM

If someone doesn’t want to pay the datejust price tag it is a nice option. If someone was going to buy a datejust, they wouldn’t buy the OP instead. Datejust is dressier, OP is sportier. Great watches.

JRell · 13 September 2020, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by escobar144

I have a feeling we can expect some changed to the DJ41 line very soon. More dial options, maybe even a bigger case again

They just changed it and added the new movement. You won’t see a movement change for 10 years. Datejust stays true to form and won’t go any bigger for a dress watch. Dial options yes, always happens. I bet you will see the blue with TT. Would be a hit.

georgekart · 13 September 2020, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by escobar144

I have a feeling we can expect some changed to the DJ41 line very soon. More dial options, maybe even a bigger case again

I don't think so. We saw a larger DJ already. And the DJII was not popular. More dials? Definitely. I think if those bright OP dials sell well, they might add one or two to DJ.

Sandpit · 13 September 2020, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ltmgeller

I don't think it will, you either want a date or you don't. I don't think the size will change that.

I honestly don’t think the average customer thinks that way. They want a nice looking Rolex first and foremost. I think the blue OP41 could knock a few sales off the blue DJ41. Likewise with the black and silver.

As a DJ41 customer (in the near future) the OP41 has certainly turned my head a bit.

rolexfanforlife · 13 September 2020, 03:50 AM

I think it will affect it, or at least you will more easily obtain the semi hard to get DJs now (e.g. blue dial)

Wahlberg · 13 September 2020, 04:00 AM

I'm positive the success of the new OP will mean a price increase of 1000 USD/EUR within 1 year. It's too similar to a Datejust, only the date complication is missing. But it has everything else.

Alfredo. · 13 September 2020, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ltmgeller

I don't think it will, you either want a date or you don't. I don't think the size will change that.

X2!

TswaneNguni · 13 September 2020, 06:34 AM

My opinion .....

On Jubilee / Fluted DJs... no
On oyster / smooth DJs ...yes,will have an effect .

holdingon · 13 September 2020, 06:52 AM

OP 36/41 will have an effect on the smooth bezel + oyster DJs especially with the colorful dials. However, new OP is really geared towards younger buyers and folks looking for new colors so maybe not. I probably go for the OP 36. A better question is OP 36 better buy than Tudor BB 58 now?

Rokoru · 13 September 2020, 07:06 AM

I think it does. Basically the OP is like a Nodatejust. And for much less and now attractive color options.

DoctorA · 13 September 2020, 07:09 AM

DJ is the winner for me
The new OP is not a first rolex imho but a “fun” addition while the DJ can live by itself !

alphadweller · 13 September 2020, 07:37 AM

Not sure, the DJ with fluted bezel and jubilee feels more substantial, kind of on a different level TBH.

TswaneNguni · 13 September 2020, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by alphadweller

Not sure, the DJ with fluted bezel and jubilee feels more substantial, kind of on a different level TBH.

Agree,but DJ41 on oyster /smooth ,the OP41 is closer and less money .Advatage (for some) of all brushed bracelet too.

noshame · 13 September 2020, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

My opinion .....

On Jubilee / Fluted DJs... no
On oyster / smooth DJs ...yes,will have an effect .

this 100%

rossi46 · 13 September 2020, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Advatage (for some) of all brushed bracelet too.

MAJOR advantage, if you ask me

Raymondlam09101985 · 13 September 2020, 12:36 PM

The new OP with more color choice probably aiming for new younger generation entry level trying to get more people into Rolex

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JodyHighroller · 19 September 2020, 11:35 PM

Does anyone own the new OP41 and DJ41? If so, can you confirm if they are the same size and wear similar on the wrist?

gnuyork · 20 September 2020, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rossi46

MAJOR advantage, if you ask me

Same. If the Date Just had an all brushed bracelet, I wouldn't be so upset the OP39 is discontinued.

I just want a Rolex that doesn't scream "hey look at me, I'm a shiny flashy watch." The OP was perfect for that, but now you have bigger dials and kool-aid colors.

Rrpdc · 20 September 2020, 12:21 AM

Yes but I would not want the kool-aid invicta colors and would miss the date .

rossi46 · 20 September 2020, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gnuyork

I just want a Rolex that doesn't scream "hey look at me, I'm a shiny flashy watch." The OP was perfect for that, but now you have bigger dials and kool-aid colors.

Not necessarily!

hammatime68 · 20 September 2020, 03:02 AM

I think they have different appeal. OP is a much cleaner, uncluttered look in general. Easy to dress down, and more "fun" colors. I think the DJ is still the ultimate dress/casual dress watch. Should be more than enough room in the market for both IMO

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13 September 2020, 12:54 AM	#1
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,608	New release OP 41 vs DJ41 Will the new OP 41 release have an effect on the demand / sales/ availability of the DJ41 ?

13 September 2020, 01:08 AM	#3
ltmgeller 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 21,379	I don't think it will, you either want a date or you don't. I don't think the size will change that. __________________ Oh, look at the time... Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

13 September 2020, 02:58 AM	#10
JRell "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 126610LN Posts: 6,542	If someone doesn’t want to pay the datejust price tag it is a nice option. If someone was going to buy a datejust, they wouldn’t buy the OP instead. Datejust is dressier, OP is sportier. Great watches. __________________ 126610LN

13 September 2020, 03:50 AM	#14
rolexfanforlife "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: USA Watch: Sub Posts: 963	I think it will affect it, or at least you will more easily obtain the semi hard to get DJs now (e.g. blue dial) __________________ GS: SBGP017; Omega: PO diamond; RM: 67-02 (Green); Rolex: 16710, 16520, 116509 (TMOP), 116520, 5513, 1680, 16013 (Tiffany stamped), 116610LV, 124300 x 2 (Celebration; Green), 126719BLRO (Meteorite), 226570 (polar) Oyster Quartz; Tag: Monaco; VC: Patrimony!

13 September 2020, 01:06 AM	#2
Stevec14 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: Steve Location: U.K. Watch: 321, Snoopy 3 Posts: 4,400	It’s possible, but the DJ is more classic Rolex where you can have jubilee and fluted with more classic dual colours. The OP may take a few sales away but is likely aimed at a slightly different audience. While I don’t like all the colours, I think the OP’s will do really well esp at the price point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 September 2020, 01:42 AM	#5
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Impossible. The Datejust is the best selling Rolex in the world. What happens on the forum is another matter, but this is not the real world.

13 September 2020, 01:57 AM	#6
Max 66 Banned Join Date: Apr 2020 Real Name: Max66 Location: On Earth Posts: 302	Eventually the OP 39 could have affected the DJ41, that despite the code (Datejust 41) has a real case diameter of 39.5 mm. In my opinion the Oyster Perpetual and the Datejust are simply different types of watches and each od them has its own pluses and minuses

13 September 2020, 02:05 AM	#7
zjd168 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 2,698	it will likely cannibalize dj with lower price point and dial color offerings, Rolex can afford it for now as almost all SS DJ are in high demand so the impact is minimal. Rolex definitely hopes the OP will add new customers in stead of at the expense of DJ.

13 September 2020, 02:56 AM	#9
escobar144 Banned Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: LA Watch: Submariner/DJ 41 Posts: 506	I have a feeling we can expect some changed to the DJ41 line very soon. More dial options, maybe even a bigger case again

13 September 2020, 04:00 AM	#15
Wahlberg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Paris Posts: 3,536	I'm positive the success of the new OP will mean a price increase of 1000 USD/EUR within 1 year. It's too similar to a Datejust, only the date complication is missing. But it has everything else.

13 September 2020, 06:34 AM	#17
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,608	My opinion ..... On Jubilee / Fluted DJs... no On oyster / smooth DJs ...yes,will have an effect .

13 September 2020, 06:52 AM	#18
holdingon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: usa Posts: 553	OP 36/41 will have an effect on the smooth bezel + oyster DJs especially with the colorful dials. However, new OP is really geared towards younger buyers and folks looking for new colors so maybe not. I probably go for the OP 36. A better question is OP 36 better buy than Tudor BB 58 now?

13 September 2020, 07:06 AM	#19
Rokoru "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 759	I think it does. Basically the OP is like a Nodatejust. And for much less and now attractive color options.

13 September 2020, 07:09 AM	#20
DoctorA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 6,523	DJ is the winner for me The new OP is not a first rolex imho but a “fun” addition while the DJ can live by itself ! __________________ Wear the watch you like, not the one they tell you to wear!

13 September 2020, 07:37 AM	#21
alphadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vic Location: Spain Watch: SD43 Posts: 5,908	Not sure, the DJ with fluted bezel and jubilee feels more substantial, kind of on a different level TBH.

13 September 2020, 12:36 PM	#25
Raymondlam09101985 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Rosemead, CA Watch: 126710, 116713 Posts: 159	The new OP with more color choice probably aiming for new younger generation entry level trying to get more people into Rolex Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

19 September 2020, 11:35 PM	#26
JodyHighroller Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 2,149	Does anyone own the new OP41 and DJ41? If so, can you confirm if they are the same size and wear similar on the wrist?

20 September 2020, 12:21 AM	#28
Rrpdc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Dc Posts: 2,002	Yes but I would not want the kool-aid invicta colors and would miss the date .

20 September 2020, 03:02 AM	#30
hammatime68 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: John Hamma Location: Virginia Watch: Omega Aqua Terra Posts: 16	I think they have different appeal. OP is a much cleaner, uncluttered look in general. Easy to dress down, and more "fun" colors. I think the DJ is still the ultimate dress/casual dress watch. Should be more than enough room in the market for both IMO

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