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Old 21 January 2018, 01:05 AM   #31
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I would look into the history of AP and their watchmaking ability. The ROO series is just one part of what they do and are larger sports pieces. They have fantastic RO complication pieces that are stunning.
I guess I was perhaps unfairly focusing on their very consistent bracelets and case look, and not giving enough credit to their complications and finishing. I will focus on respecting them without necessarily wanting to own them.
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Old 22 January 2018, 04:39 AM   #32
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2 out of 3..... Rolex & Patek.......

Love the Vacheron but hate the resale value.....

Never an AP fan..... Sorry guys....
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Old 22 January 2018, 06:58 AM   #33
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Patek and Rolex for me, so batting .333
After further review of batting averages, with your PP collection my friend, I'd put you at a thousand on that basis alone!
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Old 22 January 2018, 07:23 AM   #34
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After further review of batting averages, with your PP collection my friend, I'd put you at a thousand on that basis alone!


Thank you, my friend! Look forward to seeing at the LV GTG in a few months!
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Old 22 January 2018, 08:05 AM   #35
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Holy trinity: vintage Rolex, nautilus and Patek Chronos... lol


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Old 22 January 2018, 08:15 AM   #36
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Patek and Rolex for me, so batting .333
I call that the Horological 1-2
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Old 22 January 2018, 11:55 AM   #37
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Thank you, my friend! Look forward to seeing at the LV GTG in a few months!
Looking forward to it!
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Old 23 January 2018, 01:31 AM   #38
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We've got a very similar trio.

My first trinity watch was the VC Patrimony, then added the PP Annual Calendar and then was on the fence between the 15202 and the 5711 (when the Nautilus was somewhat attainable), but went with the AP Jumbo so I could complete the holy trinity. No regrets at all despite the current resale value of the 5711.

The second pic with the full collection, a couple of Rolex icons and a vintage Speedy to round out the collection.
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Old 23 January 2018, 02:22 AM   #39
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I agree that ALS need a place in now the holy quartet.
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Old 23 January 2018, 03:03 PM   #40
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Old 24 January 2018, 01:36 AM   #41
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Not a fan of VC and ALS to complete my truly holy trinity!

Will add a few more PP’s when I can afford
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Old 24 January 2018, 09:53 AM   #42
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Will add a few more PP’s when I can afford
Damn that Lange looks good, even against such stiff competition!
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Old 24 January 2018, 10:37 AM   #43
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Of all the brands, I’ve yet to try a Rado, Hublot, or VC. I know what you’re thinking, one of those three doesn’t belong on that list. The only reason I’ve not tried the BC was that I haven’t found a model that appealed to me. However that Patrimony has been steadily growing on me.

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Old 24 January 2018, 10:38 AM   #44
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Damn that Lange looks good, even against such stiff competition!
You need to get a Datograph. Everyone should own a ALS Datograph at least once in their life.
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Old 24 January 2018, 11:55 AM   #45
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You need to get a Datograph. Everyone should own a ALS Datograph at least once in their life.
I've got the ZW more in my sights now.
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Old 24 January 2018, 12:02 PM   #46
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While I like VC and could conceive of buying one it’s not independent. For me the trio represents the past regrettably. Present day it’s really just a duo if being true to the origins of the 3. Just my opinion.

I intend on adding an AP in future.
I understand what you mean, somehow not being independent makes the company less desirable yet when I try to rationalize it, I can't. The only thing I can think of is that the may have to chase the market more in order to meet certain revenue goals. Yet, independents could be more susceptible to short term revenue misses. So then I'm not sure what the real issue is...
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Old 24 January 2018, 12:36 PM   #47
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Damn that Lange looks good, even against such stiff competition!
Thanks, I chose this over the dato due to simplicity, thinner case, value for money. Not a fan of the big date and white sub dials but surely, the dato is an amazing piece for what it is :)
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Old 24 January 2018, 12:39 PM   #48
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You need to get a Datograph. Everyone should own a ALS Datograph at least once in their life.
I hear ya but not 100% crazy about the looks vs 1815 chrono. And for the price, I rather buy PP5320G which will hold its value better
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Old 24 January 2018, 01:06 PM   #49
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I've got the ZW more in my sights now.
Now THAT is a Lange to strive for.
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Old 24 January 2018, 02:17 PM   #50
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I understand what you mean, somehow not being independent makes the company less desirable yet when I try to rationalize it, I can't. The only thing I can think of is that the may have to chase the market more in order to meet certain revenue goals. Yet, independents could be more susceptible to short term revenue misses. So then I'm not sure what the real issue is...
It’s almost like this independent thing is a marketing ploy.
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Old 24 January 2018, 04:23 PM   #51
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I understand what you mean, somehow not being independent makes the company less desirable yet when I try to rationalize it, I can't. The only thing I can think of is that the may have to chase the market more in order to meet certain revenue goals. Yet, independents could be more susceptible to short term revenue misses. So then I'm not sure what the real issue is...
A publicly traded group is more beholden to profit growth and short term revenue goals as they are accountable to shareholders where as an independent isnt necessarily bound by these pressures if they have a few down quarters and can stay the course if they think its in their long term interests. Publicly traded companies generally sacrifice long term goals for short term stock price increases and worry about the long term when they get there. This is true generally across all industries.

Assuming the independent is financially secure they can lose money for a while if staying the course is in their long term interests, a public company its a much harder sell. I think a lot of these gimmicky things generally come from the non independents and all things being equal they probably dont want to do them in the first place. Thats the risk and the downside from WIS of getting into a non independent brand.
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Old 24 January 2018, 11:10 PM   #52
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Interesting, a lot of you have trouble appreciating VC, which is my favorite brand. I have an Overseas and a Toledo 1952. My next will be an American 1921.
Also have a 15305OR and ceramic diver. I was close to getting a 5712 but when I tried it on it felt too light. Guess I’ll substitute my Zeitwerk for a pseudo Trinity.



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Old 25 January 2018, 12:21 AM   #53
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Interesting, a lot of you have trouble appreciating VC, which is my favorite brand. I have an Overseas and a Toledo 1952. My next will be an American 1921
I tried on a 1921 today at an AD I came across during a business trip. Lovely watch, I tried on the RG but can imagine that the PT version is even nicer.
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Old 25 January 2018, 12:30 AM   #54
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Interesting, a lot of you have trouble appreciating VC, which is my favorite brand. I have an Overseas and a Toledo 1952. My next will be an American 1921.
Also have a 15305OR and ceramic diver. I was close to getting a 5712 but when I tried it on it felt too light. Guess I’ll substitute my Zeitwerk for a pseudo Trinity.



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Great collection, and quite surprising in that sweet haul there is no Patek. Kudos!
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Old 25 January 2018, 06:57 AM   #55
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ZW is way cool and along with other ALS pieces puts ALS in the holy quartet IMO.
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Old 1 February 2018, 04:47 AM   #56
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Vacheron OS 14590, Patek 5711 and AP 15400.
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Old 1 February 2018, 06:40 AM   #57
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On VC, would love me Traditionelle small seconds rg as my dress watch. It appears to be an amazing value too, especially compared to the 5127 from PP.
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Tremendous pic of the Big Five brands.
i could of said here :" I see your trinity and raise you Lange and Breguet "



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