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Old 1 July 2020, 12:24 PM   #1
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14060m with RSC new case

Looking at a 14060m z serial with a RSC replaced case (papers etc included). Do y’all think this replacement detracts from value, not necessarily in dollar value but in its originality? Would you purchase or wait for 100% pure example? Thanks all. Just FYI, the seller is DavidSW who is clearly a very very reliable seller.
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Old 1 July 2020, 12:32 PM   #2
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14060m with RSC new case

I truly believe that only you can answer that question. Will it bug you? If so, wait and get the “pure example”.
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Old 1 July 2020, 12:33 PM   #3
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Buying it to wear and enjoy it’s fine.

If I was buying it for future resale I would find a better (intact original) example.
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Old 1 July 2020, 12:35 PM   #4
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Don't see that it makes much difference. It has a warranty card from Rolex.
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Old 1 July 2020, 12:56 PM   #5
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Old 1 July 2020, 01:26 PM   #6
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Old 1 July 2020, 03:25 PM   #7
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I'd much rather have a service case then a ruined one which they tried to polish.

Idgaf about value anyway.
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I'd much rather have a service case then a ruined one which they tried to polish.

Idgaf about value anyway.
Haha, well said. I agree 100%
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It wouldn't bother me at all. It's not rare enough to worry about.

I'm curious to see/hear/read what @CaptTed said.
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Old 2 July 2020, 02:19 AM   #10
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Same case but it comes with a stigma... to some it will mean something to others it will mean nothing... if 10 people were asked which watch they would pick, original case or replacement case all other things being equal they would likely pick original case... if the prices were different there may be a shift ... if the price difference was greater the likelihood of more people choosing the replacement will rise.

so yes i would say there is an impact to value with a replacement case.
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Old 2 July 2020, 02:26 AM   #11
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... if 10 people were asked which watch they would pick, original case or replacement case all other things being equal they would likely pick original case...
I tend to agree Gus and I think you’ve explained it well
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Old 2 July 2020, 02:29 AM   #12
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Looking at a 14060m z serial with a RSC replaced case (papers etc included). Do y’all think this replacement detracts from value, not necessarily in dollar value but in its originality? Would you purchase or wait for 100% pure example? Thanks all. Just FYI, the seller is DavidSW who is clearly a very very reliable seller.


Yes, it affects dollar value, but not to a significant amount; that is just how the market works.

Yes, it affects "originality" - it isn't original any more. What it does not affect is authenticity - it is still an authentic Rolex.

Buying any watch is a personal thing. If the price is right and it's a model that you like, a new case and serviced movement is as close to a new watch as you can get on the secondary market.
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Old 2 July 2020, 02:37 AM   #13
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I know what watch you are talking about and yes, I would not go for it for this reason:

It's a two liner dial with a rehaut service case. It just looks off, unfortunately. I would want the replacement case to be period correct.
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Old 2 July 2020, 02:55 AM   #14
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I know what watch you are talking about and yes, I would not go for it for this reason:

It's a two liner dial with a rehaut service case. It just looks off, unfortunately. I would want the replacement case to be period correct.
I would tend to agree with this statement as well, 2 liner models did not come with engraved Rehaut’s.
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Old 2 July 2020, 03:10 AM   #15
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I would tend to agree with this statement as well, 2 liner models did not come with engraved Rehaut’s.
Exactly, and it's not a subtle difference. Every time you look down at your watch to admire it, you're going to see it. It will slowly start becoming annoying resulting you in offloading it.

Other than that, I don't care if a part was replaced as long as it is time period correct.
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I would not touch it.
It's authentic, but screams Fake!
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Old 2 July 2020, 03:42 AM   #17
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If the price is right and it's a model that you like, a new case and serviced movement is as close to a new watch as you can get on the secondary market.
This nails it.


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It will slowly start becoming annoying resulting you in offloading it.
You don't actually know this.
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Old 2 July 2020, 03:55 AM   #18
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This nails it.




You don't actually know this.
I don't, but my OCD would label it as a frankenwatch. A lot of WIS are OCD, so pretty good chance it may bother him too knowing that the replacement case is one that belongs on a newer Rolex.

Or, he could just spend the extra money and get a new dial/hands too if he wants to go down this road.
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I tend to agree Gus and I think you’ve explained it well


thanks

ps i have first hand experience with a 16610LV (Kermit)... i sold it because it bugged me and my sale was impacted.
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I realize I'm surfacing an old thread, but wanted to add the following...

I never noticed the rehaut on this watch. I'm somewhat particular, too (perhaps not unlike others that are into watches), and not once did my attention go to the rehaut. In fact, I don't take notice of the rehaut on any of my 6 digit watches (though for some reason I like knowing it is there). And IIRC I posted a pic online somewhere about the exact watch being considered here, and there weren't any comments on the fact that this model "should not" have engraved rehaut - it probably just wasn't noticed (or maybe no one looked, ha!).

At the end of the day, my feeling is what we perceive to matter (from pics online, internet debate, theoretical considerations, etc) and what really does matter can be quite different.

Overall the two line subs are fantastic in a simplistic and utilitarian way, though this model was a little smaller than I prefer, but a high-quality example nonetheless. Cheers.
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Old 23 October 2020, 12:53 AM   #21
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Buying it to wear and enjoy it’s fine.

If I was buying it for future resale I would find a better (intact original) example.
I agree to this answer.
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Old 23 October 2020, 03:15 AM   #22
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I once had a re cased sea dweller 16600 , for love nor money I couldn't give the thing away , mainly because the new serial of a new case comes with a prefix 44 number if I remember correctly and that doesn't match the original warranty , it just scares buyers .
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Old 23 October 2020, 01:44 PM   #23
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It has an effect on value, but so does wearing it.

It’s a watch, not an investment.
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Old 23 October 2020, 01:59 PM   #24
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I truly believe that only you can answer that question. Will it bug you? If so, wait and get the “pure example”.
This sums it beautifully
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Old 23 October 2020, 04:55 PM   #25
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I'd much rather have a service case then a ruined one which they tried to polish.

Idgaf about value anyway.
I agree.

But was Igdaf necessary?
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Old 24 October 2020, 04:41 PM   #26
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Old 24 October 2020, 04:54 PM   #27
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Thousands of examples out there If you prefer one with a beat up case !
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Old 24 October 2020, 06:25 PM   #28
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If it was a choice between an over polished mess and a service case box fresh I’d take the service case all day long with the paperwork.
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Old 24 October 2020, 07:30 PM   #29
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I'd much rather have a service case then a ruined one which they tried to polish.

Idgaf about value anyway.
Have to agree Bas but in todays modern age these things are frowned on, as most like to moan and groan about the slightest scratch on there watches. Then blow these scratches out of all proportion, and once you mention the word polish, todays anti polish police take over. And god forbid a slight mark or screw after service by RSC, and today with many Rolex are no longer watches now little more than £££££$$$$$ objects.
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Old 25 October 2020, 05:35 PM   #30
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Virtually every new post had some reference to future resale which is rather sad, but a reality. OP, I would look elsewhere otherwise you wouldn’t have asked the question. You won’t struggle as these watches are by no means rare.
(My regret is missing out a few years ago on a 1680 housed in stunning case with matte service dial and hands, because of potential resale value. Truly a modern wearable classic that could actually be worn daily without concern).
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