Vacheron Oversea availability in Hong Kong

[Jmaster]

Any of the Hong Kong members can report back if VC is taking any names for their Oversea waitlist at HK Boutiques? If so, what's the wait time...more like how many years...?

It's widely reported that no waitlist for Oversea in the US, but I'm curious if that's the case in HK.

Thanks,

[tecknit]

I’ve tried in the Tsim Sha Tsiui Harbour City boutique and even though they told me they allow my name to be put onto the waitlist for a black dial overseas, they only let me write my name and details on a piece of fine paper of theirs and then asked me to leave without confirming whether or not he will definitely put me on the waitlist. They won’t even let me write down my name for the blue dial

[youthagainsttt]

Originally Posted by Jmaster

Any of the Hong Kong members can report back if VC is taking any names for their Oversea waitlist at HK Boutiques? If so, what's the wait time...more like how many years...?

It's widely reported that no waitlist for Oversea in the US, but I'm curious if that's the case in HK.

Thanks,

They may take your name but I'm not sure you would get put on any list. I often go into the boutiques, was invited to a private event last year and am known to most of their staff but I'm not optimistic I'd get any call. In contrast, I've been lucky enough to get a blue 15400 from the boutique as well as a RO Chrono

[RobHK]

I purchased one VCO previously. I have asked to be put on the list for a couple of Overseas. No problem to be put on the list but they are very vague on the waiting time.

As I understand it in the past they would strictly follow the list. It's just a feeling but it does feel they are more vague because they do not follow the list from top to bottom anymore. I might be wrong on that, just a hunch. One of the watches is the silver dial 4500v, so it's not a very hot model, not really trading very high above retail either. But even for this watch I was indicated a pretty long waiting time (like 2 years+).

[Jmaster]

Thanks everyone. My AD here in the US can hook me up with a 7900V but he’s asking for a bundle deal. Seems like that’s my best opinion.

[JF100]

Like most if you have the 'contacts' i.e. boutique staff or mainly manager likes you, you can skip up the lists. Overseas for most is v hard to get now. Other lines are hit and miss.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by JF100

Like most if you have the 'contacts' i.e. boutique staff or mainly manager likes you, you can skip up the lists. Overseas for most is v hard to get now. Other lines are hit and miss.

Wonder what the 222 line would be like…

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by llngoc

Wonder what the 222 line would be like…

It's apparently really hard. The boutique where I received my blue 4500V got 23 qualified registrations of interest (existing customers with reasonable spend history) and expect to see 2-3 watches this year. They see 5 blue overseas a year for comparison.

VC makes a tenth of the watches AP makes so all of their lines are legitimately low production. Original 222 in 3N was 100 pieces in the world.

If VC was watching the market they'd take those lists of preexisting customers who registered interest and make enough for them.

At $62,500 though I find myself wondering if I'd rather have a day date 40 and $20,000.

[ajw45]

Originally Posted by EEpro

It's apparently really hard. The boutique where I received my blue 4500V got 23 qualified registrations of interest (existing customers with reasonable spend history) and expect to see 2-3 watches this year. They see 5 blue overseas a year for comparison.

VC makes a tenth of the watches AP makes so all of their lines are legitimately low production. Original 222 in 3N was 100 pieces in the world.

If VC was watching the market they'd take those lists of preexisting customers who registered interest and make enough for them.

At $62,500 though I find myself wondering if I'd rather have a day date 40 and $20,000.

VC makes a lot more than that. The numbers are private of course but based on past statements I'd bet production is close, maybe ~40k watches / year.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by ajw45

VC makes a lot more than that. The numbers are private of course but based on past statements I'd bet production is close, maybe ~40k watches / year.

Was going to say no way. 1/10th would be close to Lange production.

[JF100]

Originally Posted by llngoc

Wonder what the 222 line would be like…

222 this year is difficult, but compared to the TSO it would be considered 'easy'.
If you are willing to wait a few years i think 222 is doable for sure as they have stated they will be producing it for quite some time; and members on this forum have made comments pertaining to a steel version & perhaps more (a platinum would be insane).

[tecknit]

Originally Posted by ajw45

VC makes a lot more than that. The numbers are private of course but based on past statements I'd bet production is close, maybe ~40k watches / year.

A simple google search would tell you it’s 20-25k annual production. 40k is the AP number

[RobHK]

Originally Posted by tecknit

A simple google search would tell you it’s 20-25k annual production. 40k is the AP number

Went to AP House the other day, they mentioned they have been working on increasing the production towards the 50k number..

[PFmicro]

Originally Posted by EEpro

VC makes a tenth of the watches AP makes so all of their lines are legitimately low production.
.

VC makes 4000 watches a year?

Sounds like watch misinformation…

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by PFmicro

VC makes 4000 watches a year?

Sounds like watch misinformation…

Sounds like the agreed upon number is 20,000. It has been addressed at least 3 times already. Thanks for your correction.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by JF100

222 this year is difficult, but compared to the TSO it would be considered 'easy'.
If you are willing to wait a few years i think 222 is doable for sure as they have stated they will be producing it for quite some time; and members on this forum have made comments pertaining to a steel version & perhaps more (a platinum would be insane).

I am told to be sixth in line for the TSO at the boutique. And when I asked about my position for 222, the comment was “you are in a very strong position” but he won’t disclose where in the line I am. Not sure why I was told for TSO and not 222.

[moting]

Which model is the TSO?

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by moting

Which model is the TSO?

https://www.vacheron-constantin.com/...110t-b935.html

[moting]

Ok thanks, was not familiar with thia acronym :)

[Giangos]

Originally Posted by ajw45

VC makes a lot more than that. The numbers are private of course but based on past statements I'd bet production is close, maybe ~40k watches / year.

That would be incorrect based on what I have been told via my boutique manager. It is no more than 20k, and won’t go much higher in order to keep their Geneva seal status.
VC 20k
AP 50k
PP 80k



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[Giangos]

Originally Posted by JF100

222 this year is difficult, but compared to the TSO it would be considered 'easy'.
If you are willing to wait a few years i think 222 is doable for sure as they have stated they will be producing it for quite some time; and members on this forum have made comments pertaining to a steel version & perhaps more (a platinum would be insane).

My understanding via conversations at the boutique is that the 222 will be produced in very very low numbers, perhaps around 100 per year. And, extremely unlikely to be released in other metals.


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[llngoc]

Originally Posted by Giangos

That would be incorrect based on what I have been told via my boutique manager. It is no more than 20k, and won’t go much higher in order to keep their Geneva seal status.
VC 20k
AP 50k
PP 80k



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I kept reading that PP is 60-65k?

[ajw45]

Originally Posted by Giangos

That would be incorrect based on what I have been told via my boutique manager. It is no more than 20k, and won’t go much higher in order to keep their Geneva seal status.
VC 20k
AP 50k
PP 80k



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Lol, believe what you like. Since Richemont doesn't give out numbers it's anyone's guess but back in 2014 they had a stated annual production of 24k with pans to go to 35k of Geneva stamped watches, so not including things like the non geneva 56. And that was 8 years ago, it would stand to reason they gone way past that since.

https://www.europastar.com/magazine/...onstantin.html

In the latest watch report VC was estimated to have done about 1/2 the turnover of AP. Given that VC is still mostly sold wholesale to ADs vs AP is sold entirely through boutiques, assuming similar average MSRP, that would put VC production only a little behind AP.

So, follow the numbers or just believe what your AD tells you, either way it isn't 10% of AP and I would bet it's more than 20k units as well.

[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Was going to say no way. 1/10th would be close to Lange production.

correct

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[HMHM]

VC annual production is 20-25k
AP for 42k for 2021 if I remember correctly, with plans to gradually scale it up to 50k over the next few years
PP is 65k for 2021. This was confirmed by TS in one of the interviews on YT.