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1675-David · 20 May 2022, 04:42 AM

Is it just me or has there not been a “How old is considered Vintage” thread for a while?

Kingface66 · 20 May 2022, 05:18 AM

You may have just inadvertently created a self-fulfilling prophecy.

1675-David · 20 May 2022, 05:29 AM

I aim to please...

Tools · 20 May 2022, 05:41 AM

Ah yes, another question that has become vintage itself

douglasf13 · 20 May 2022, 07:27 AM

I'm more curious about when a forum member is considered vintage.

mattedialdoc · 20 May 2022, 08:00 AM

Let’s encourage the use of Neo-Vintage here please….

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Eric88 · 20 May 2022, 08:23 AM

LOL. I saw a thread recently about a 4-liner 14060 and someone wondering if it was vintage or not. It might have been sarcasm.

Even neo vintage has started to be a melting pot of things that probably don't quite deserve the name.

mattedialdoc · 20 May 2022, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric88

LOL. I saw a thread recently about a 4-liner 14060 and someone wondering if it was vintage or not. It might have been sarcasm.

Even neo vintage has started to be a melting pot of things that probably don't quite deserve the name.

The term “Neo-Vintage” was invented by dealers to sell watches to guys that were priced out of 5513,1675,1680,1016. So let’s call 14060,16750,16800,14270 (neo)vintage and get ‘em sold and make guys feel like they are in the club. And it’s progressed from there even further.

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springer · 20 May 2022, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mattedialdoc

Let’s encourage the use of Neo-Vintage here please….

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Ah yes.. . the often misconstrued neo vintage. I prefer the references "vintage" and "the classics." The classics being the discontinued models that came after the vintage era.

springer · 20 May 2022, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mattedialdoc

The term “Neo-Vintage” was invented by dealers to sell watches to guys that were priced out of 5513,1675,1680,1016. So let’s call 14060,16750,16800,14270 (neo)vintage and get ‘em sold and make guys feel like they are in the club. And it’s progressed from there even further.

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Let's call them correctly - Calling a late 40-year-old GMT 16750 neo vintage is just wrong.

mattedialdoc · 20 May 2022, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

Let's call them correctly - Calling a late 40-year-old 16750 neo vintage is just wrong.

Good point. A nice Mattedial acrylic 16750 should make the vintage cut!!

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Kingface66 · 20 May 2022, 09:57 AM

I can’t believe this is actually turning into the discussion that the whole point of this post was making fun of.

springer · 20 May 2022, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

I can’t believe this is actually turning into the discussion that the whole point of this post was making fun of.

I can't believe it either Andy. Unbelievable. Maybe we should just have more "What's it Worth" threads to get us through Fox news as we surf the web at night.

77T · 20 May 2022, 11:30 AM

As Indy said, “It ain’t the years, it’s the miles.”

It would be better fun to ask how many seconds until it’s vintage.

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cts · 20 May 2022, 12:21 PM

40 plus years or so.

Dan S · 20 May 2022, 01:32 PM

TuRo · 20 May 2022, 04:17 PM

This is a 'Who's on first base' question *

* Abbott and Costello.

Andad · 20 May 2022, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by douglasf13

I'm more curious about when a forum member is considered vintage.

Hey, stop that.

‘48 is NOT vintage.

Swearengen · 20 May 2022, 08:00 PM

A bit like Golden age and Silver age comics?

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Originally Posted by springer

Ah yes.. . the often misconstrued neo vintage. I prefer the references "vintage" and "the classics." The classics being the discontinued models that came after the vintage era.

douglasf13 · 20 May 2022, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andad

Hey, stop that.

‘48 is NOT vintage.

You’ve got me by a few years, so I’ll use you as my canary in the coal mine.

1665fan · 20 May 2022, 11:57 PM

Matte dial and you know your vintage…..simple

Kingface66 · 21 May 2022, 12:16 AM

David, what'd I tell you? This joke turned into the very thread you joked about!

douglasf13 · 21 May 2022, 04:19 AM

I think many around here are going to have a hard time stomaching that things from the '90s are now firmly considered vintage.

1675-David · 21 May 2022, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

David, what'd I tell you? This joke turned into the very thread you joked about!

The only thing I can add is that in my book, and I'm sure most will agree, is if it doesn't have lug holes and a matt dial it's NOT Vintage!!

HAGWE guys

Jmbarrack · 21 May 2022, 05:29 AM

I try to keep it simple. In my mind, I refer to them as:

Neo-vintage - If Luminova / Super luminova dial was original
Vintage - If Tritium Dial was original

I thought about splitting it between just 5 and 4 digit references but I think there are a lot of 80s 5 digit references I'd consider vintage.

douglasf13 · 21 May 2022, 05:32 AM

If it's from before this century, it's essentially vintage. I'd say anything pre-SEL era, at this point, and we're not all that far away from vintage being everything 5-digit and older.

Chiboy · 21 May 2022, 05:33 AM

I assume it’s called “old” if you’re trying to sell it, and “vintage” if you’re trying to buy it.

Greglaw · 21 May 2022, 11:45 PM

It is whatever you want it to be.

zapokee · 22 May 2022, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 1675-David

The only thing I can add is that in my book, and I'm sure most will agree, is if it doesn't have lug holes and a matt dial it's NOT Vintage!!

HAGWE guys

Oh. My 1969 WG 1803 Day-Date doesn't have exterior lug holes, AND has a glossy dial.

I'd thought it was vintage, but I stand corrected.

(I know you were referring to sports models. Just having fun.

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1675-David · 23 May 2022, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zapokee

Oh. My 1969 WG 1803 Day-Date doesn't have exterior lug holes, AND has a glossy dial.

I'd thought it was vintage, but I stand corrected.

"the exception proves the rule"

20 May 2022, 04:42 AM	#1
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,010	When is a Watch considered Vintage? Is it just me or has there not been a “How old is considered Vintage” thread for a while?

20 May 2022, 05:41 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,037	Ah yes, another question that has become vintage itself __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

20 May 2022, 11:30 AM	#14
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,694	As Indy said, “It ain’t the years, it’s the miles.” It would be better fun to ask how many seconds until it’s vintage. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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20 May 2022, 04:17 PM	#17
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20 May 2022, 05:18 AM	#2
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,414	You may have just inadvertently created a self-fulfilling prophecy.

20 May 2022, 05:29 AM	#3
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,010	I aim to please...

20 May 2022, 07:27 AM	#5
douglasf13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,615	I'm more curious about when a forum member is considered vintage.

20 May 2022, 08:00 AM	#6
mattedialdoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,002	Let’s encourage the use of Neo-Vintage here please…. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 May 2022, 08:23 AM	#7
Eric88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: 88 keys Posts: 2,238	LOL. I saw a thread recently about a 4-liner 14060 and someone wondering if it was vintage or not. It might have been sarcasm. Even neo vintage has started to be a melting pot of things that probably don't quite deserve the name.

20 May 2022, 09:57 AM	#12
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,414	I can’t believe this is actually turning into the discussion that the whole point of this post was making fun of.

20 May 2022, 12:21 PM	#15
cts "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA Posts: 887	40 plus years or so.

20 May 2022, 11:57 PM	#21
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Matte dial and you know your vintage…..simple

21 May 2022, 12:16 AM	#22
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,414	David, what'd I tell you? This joke turned into the very thread you joked about!

21 May 2022, 04:19 AM	#23
douglasf13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,615	I think many around here are going to have a hard time stomaching that things from the '90s are now firmly considered vintage.

21 May 2022, 05:29 AM	#25
Jmbarrack "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: United States Watch: Ever changing! Posts: 1,142	I try to keep it simple. In my mind, I refer to them as: Neo-vintage - If Luminova / Super luminova dial was original Vintage - If Tritium Dial was original I thought about splitting it between just 5 and 4 digit references but I think there are a lot of 80s 5 digit references I'd consider vintage.

21 May 2022, 05:32 AM	#26
douglasf13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,615	If it's from before this century, it's essentially vintage. I'd say anything pre-SEL era, at this point, and we're not all that far away from vintage being everything 5-digit and older.

21 May 2022, 05:33 AM	#27
Chiboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 5,380	I assume it’s called “old” if you’re trying to sell it, and “vintage” if you’re trying to buy it. __________________ Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)

21 May 2022, 11:45 PM	#28
Greglaw Banned Join Date: May 2020 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 667	It is whatever you want it to be.

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