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Old 19 March 2022, 07:35 PM   #61
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Old 19 March 2022, 08:13 PM   #62
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Lol so 1-0. I’ll take the W. This you? Enjoy that trash.
You certainly get points for brashness and bravado in reinforcing your cluelessness, which makes it even funnier or sadder. Anyway, you can have the win if you so desperately need it…and no, I am not Joaquin Phoenix.
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Old 19 March 2022, 08:23 PM   #63
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Just like your points, the first Laureato looks nothing like the current iteration in design, and movement
Sure, but design moves on. They didn’t start with the watch you found a picture of and then up with the watch today by magic. It evolved like all the others. Here are the five generations so far.

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Old 19 March 2022, 08:48 PM   #64
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Yes I meant the 18k skeleton

Can be bought at list price with 2 month wait. The person that said their movements are junk, has not done a direct comparison between ap movements and gp movements. As someone who owns both an ap and gp, I don't see ap being superior. Also remember when the roo first came out it was also ridiculed.
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Old 19 March 2022, 09:05 PM   #65
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Sure, but design moves on. They didn’t start with the watch you found a picture of and then up with the watch today by magic. It evolved like all the others. Here are the five generations so far.

When I looked into getting a Laureato some years ago I quickly focused on the 8010 in the center above. From there on they got a lot more sporty for better or worse. In the end it didn't happen. Pretty watches that please the eye but compared to some of the competition less daring and special in my perception. That said, I prefer this design language to the current VC Overseas which is trying harder to be different from the competition (bezel, bracelet, bright blue dial), but as a package looked big, bulky, and less refined and elegant on my wrist than a 5711 or 15202. There I'd take a 222 any time.
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Old 19 March 2022, 09:24 PM   #66
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There I'd take a 222 any time.
Wouldn’t we all…if it was just one or two mm wider.
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Old 19 March 2022, 10:00 PM   #67
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Sure, but design moves on. They didn’t start with the watch you found a picture of and then up with the watch today by magic. It evolved like all the others. Here are the five generations so far.

First and third generations clear standouts...
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Old 19 March 2022, 10:31 PM   #68
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Just take the Chopard alpine eagle and skip this “waiting list/time”


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Old 19 March 2022, 10:33 PM   #69
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Sure, but design moves on. They didn’t start with the watch you found a picture of and then up with the watch today by magic. It evolved like all the others. Here are the five generations so far.


Lol design moves on——right to direct ripoffs of an actually iconic piece.

Still waiting for you to defend your position versus the “I’m too simple to see what you see.” A classic elementary school play here.

Enlighten me with your great horological knowledge. Again, I have no issue with you loving the watch or the brand. The issue I have is pretending it’s something it isn’t.


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Old 19 March 2022, 10:38 PM   #70
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When I looked into getting a Laureato some years ago I quickly focused on the 8010 in the center above. From there on they got a lot more sporty for better or worse. In the end it didn't happen. Pretty watches that please the eye but compared to some of the competition less daring and special in my perception. That said, I prefer this design language to the current VC Overseas which is trying harder to be different from the competition (bezel, bracelet, bright blue dial), but as a package looked big, bulky, and less refined and elegant on my wrist than a 5711 or 15202. There I'd take a 222 any time.

The VC is trying harder to be different from the competition? So let me make sure I have this straight—originality, incredible craftsmanship, a brand in the trilogy. That’s a bridge too far for you.

Absolute garbage, elements ripped from iconic pieces, trash value. This is a yes. Lol. I rest my case your honor. Enjoy the thread boys. I wish you all the best despite our differences. Even the Lauretrasho fans.


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Old 19 March 2022, 10:45 PM   #71
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Still waiting for you to defend your position versus the “I’m too simple to see what you see.” A classic elementary school play here.

Enlighten me with your great horological knowledge. Again, I have no issue with you loving the watch or the brand. The issue I have is pretending it’s something it isn’t.
What do you think I am pretending it is?

Again, I tell you again not to bother waiting as people like you are unconvincable beyond the position you have chosen to hold. Anyway, I only have an objection to your characterisation of the entire brand as "garbage" when you clearly have little to no understanding of the brand and its horological credentials.
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Old 19 March 2022, 10:50 PM   #72
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What do you think I am pretending it is?

Again, I tell you again not to bother waiting as people like you are unconvincable beyond the position you have chosen to hold. Anyway, I only have an objection to your characterisation of the entire brand as "garbage" when you clearly have little to no understanding of the brand and its horological credentials.

I am willing to adjust my position. Help me with it. I’ve handled a GP. It’s not hideous visually but it’s undeniably a ripoff. Help me with the rest.


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Old 20 March 2022, 12:09 AM   #73
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I tend to agree I would like to see some counter points. I am not saying it’s trash but also think it’s being hyped.


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This thread is getting really funny LOL! Personally not a GP fan, it's my personal feelings about the visually confused styling. But hey, that's just me. The movement looks nice enough.

Besides, anything TPG are pushing gets a punt due to my personal belief of ethics. I do realize this is a rare trait in 2022.
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Old 20 March 2022, 02:05 AM   #75
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The three Laureato fans worldwide explaining to you the brand heritage and value proposition.


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Old 20 March 2022, 03:47 AM   #76
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The VC is trying harder to be different from the competition? So let me make sure I have this straight—originality, incredible craftsmanship, a brand in the trilogy. That’s a bridge too far for you.

Absolute garbage, elements ripped from iconic pieces, trash value. This is a yes. Lol. I rest my case your honor. Enjoy the thread boys. I wish you all the best despite our differences. Even the Lauretrasho fans.


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I am sorry, but you sound like an angry little boy with difficulties in terms of reading comprehension. If you can't see that the Overseas is trying harder to look different from its competition Royal Oak and Nautilus than the Laureato (which looks like their baby) you need to get your eyesight checked. All I had discussed is design. No point in regurgitating your earlier trash talk as I am no a Laureato fan, nor in stating the obvious about the Overseas being original, holy trilogy, and showing incredible craftmanship. Nobody in their right mind will disagree. Yet this doesn't make it a pretty watch in my eyes. There you can feel free to disagree.
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Old 20 March 2022, 04:30 AM   #77
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I am sorry, but you sound like an angry little boy with difficulties in terms of reading comprehension. If you can't see that the Overseas is trying harder to look different from its competition Royal Oak and Nautilus than the Laureato (which looks like their baby) you need to get your eyesight checked. All I had discussed is design. No point in regurgitating your earlier trash talk as I am no a Laureato fan, nor in stating the obvious about the Overseas being original, holy trilogy, and showing incredible craftmanship. Nobody in their right mind will disagree. Yet this doesn't make it a pretty watch in my eyes. There you can feel free to disagree.

The VC isn’t trying harder. It doesn’t care. This is called originality.


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Old 20 March 2022, 07:00 AM   #78
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I am willing to adjust my position. Help me with it. I’ve handled a GP. It’s not hideous visually but it’s undeniably a ripoff. Help me with the rest.
Nice try.
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Personally not a GP fan, it's my personal feelings about the visually confused styling. But hey, that's just me.

Do tell - what is visually confused in the design of every watch GP make…you know, since you're not a fan of the entire brand.
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Old 20 March 2022, 09:19 AM   #80
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Is the Laureato the newest hot/unobtainable piece?

It's gaining more attention. Will it hold that attention is the more pertinent question. If you like it the answer to either is pretty much irrelevant.
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Old 20 March 2022, 11:07 AM   #81
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Do tell - what is visually confused in the design of every watch GP make…you know, since you're not a fan of the entire brand.
No no, the one posted, not their entire product line since the dawn of Swiss time. The circle bit below the bezel does not visually belong imho. Looks awkward. This is where Bvlgari's Octo does it better, fashionably speaking, in my eyes.

Plus since TPG are pushing GP according to you guys since I pay absolutely zero attention to them unless its 'forced' upon me, I'm now convinced to avoid them. Hey, it's how I roll. I'm not a R Mille customer either, I don't see the value/pricing. Hey, that's me. Go buy a few GP and RM if you love them, cool by me.

I'll stand by my Bvlgari pick for innovation, value, and styling. But hey, that's me.

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Old 20 March 2022, 11:29 AM   #82
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Translation: you have nothing.


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Old 20 March 2022, 11:39 AM   #83
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Translation: you have nothing.
Yep, you're right, and you're still winning
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Old 20 March 2022, 11:41 AM   #84
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Plus since TPG are pushing GP, I'm now convinced to avoid them.
Here's a trick - stop watching the YouTube watch "experts". They are less interested in the watches than they are in getting their view count revenue up.
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Here's a trick - stop watching the YouTube watch "experts". They are less interested in the watches than they are in getting their view count revenue up.
Good point, yet there are some video guys who are good. I love what Czapek did with their multi-part video series about the movement. I do not watch TPG, but someone here said...

Yet yes, some video 'personalities' are what they are. It's not just in the watch hobby. Considering how much money companies spend on buying influencer time for perfume, clothing, shoes, automobiles, golf clubs... and even home lawn mowers and... it's quite the business.

Am trying to avoid the 'left turn' into a discussion about paid promotion versus honest enthusiasm. Color me an enthusiast for decades, and boy have things changed over the last few years.

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Color me an enthusiast for decades, and boy have things changed over the last few years.
Same, and agreed.
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Old 20 March 2022, 01:23 PM   #87
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The 8010 bracelet has a PP nautilus feel about it.
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Haters are going to hate, no matter what. As one of the previous posters replied, the Laureato came two years after the AP RO and before the Nautilius.

The design language is also very different, having been designed by a Milanese architect who too inspiration from the roof of the Duomo.

I picked up one recently. The blue dial absolutely pops and I got it close to 30% under retail. The finish is way superior to the Rolex GMT that I’ve been waiting for years for and the watch wears nicely on the wrist. I think it represents great value and the brand is doing pretty well in Asia, with good brand awareness and recognition.

Great history, excellent finish, in house movement, comfortable bracelet, value for money, no long wait periods - what’s not to like?




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Old 20 March 2022, 06:20 PM   #89
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Nice watch, with heritage and quality, that periodically buzzes in my head.
So far, for some reasons not well identified, it did not make the click in me, so I patiently wait for the right moment, if and when it arrives.

For the haters: never say never. Sometimes the position the mind decides to hold today may dramatically change in the future …


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Haters are going to hate, no matter what. As one of the previous posters replied, the Laureato came two years after the AP RO and before the Nautilius.

The design language is also very different, having been designed by a Milanese architect who too inspiration from the roof of the Duomo.

I picked up one recently. The blue dial absolutely pops and I got it close to 30% under retail. The finish is way superior to the Rolex GMT that I’ve been waiting for years for and the watch wears nicely on the wrist. I think it represents great value and the brand is doing pretty well in Asia, with good brand awareness and recognition.

Great history, excellent finish, in house movement, comfortable bracelet, value for money, no long wait periods - what’s not to like?


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Haters are going to hate, no matter what. As one of the previous posters replied, the Laureato came two years after the AP RO and before the Nautilius.

The design language is also very different, having been designed by a Milanese architect who too inspiration from the roof of the Duomo.

I picked up one recently. The blue dial absolutely pops and I got it close to 30% under retail. The finish is way superior to the Rolex GMT that I’ve been waiting for years for and the watch wears nicely on the wrist. I think it represents great value and the brand is doing pretty well in Asia, with good brand awareness and recognition.

Great history, excellent finish, in house movement, comfortable bracelet, value for money, no long wait periods - what’s not to like?
Good take. You mention that the finishing is better than the GMT, would you put it on the same level as the RO or somewhere in between?


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