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Old 1 April 2022, 01:51 AM   #61
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personally i think its spot on. Agree steel will be better as for me this would be a daily wearer. Flys under the radar and only the real connoisseurs would know what this is.
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Old 1 April 2022, 03:01 AM   #62
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personally i think its spot on. Agree steel will be better as for me this would be a daily wearer. Flys under the radar and only the real connoisseurs would know what this is.
But are you buying it if you get the chance?
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Old 1 April 2022, 03:41 AM   #63
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I’d buy the steel.
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Old 1 April 2022, 05:18 AM   #64
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If they do a steel version and it’s 25k or less, I’m all over it. Though I’m assuming it (like this gold one) would be boutique only, and my VC history/connection is via an AD, so I’m assuming I’d have no chance at all.
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If they do a steel version and it’s 25k or less, I’m all over it. Though I’m assuming it (like this gold one) would be boutique only, and my VC history/connection is via an AD, so I’m assuming I’d have no chance at all.

eBoutique. Tell them your history and talk to them about your AD not having access. They can get hot pieces too.
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Old 1 April 2022, 05:38 AM   #66
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Old 1 April 2022, 02:13 PM   #67
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But are you buying it if you get the chance?
going to try for the skele tourbillon. Gold.
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Old 1 April 2022, 04:37 PM   #68
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How likely is it that they will launch a SS later this year?


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Old 1 April 2022, 06:13 PM   #69
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going to try for the skele tourbillon. Gold.
You are such a heavy hitter..
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Old 1 April 2022, 10:26 PM   #70
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The only people who know for sure aren’t talking. At the trade show, Christian Selmoni was asked this and all he seemed to want to say is that the gold version was a better representation of the 222’s history and the 1970s aesthetic. There was no acknowledgment that a steel version would be forthcoming. He also affirmed that this piece will be limited production, and that it’s not meant to compete with flagship models—presumably a steel piece would be the same things, so if produced, only produced in extremely limited quantities. I suspect that for VC—a brand that produces in limited quantities as a baseline—that means a few dozen pieces?—or maybe very low 100s?

Kinda hard to think they won’t do it in steel, now that they’re tooled up and have done all the r&d. But who knows with these guys. They don’t seem to make decisions based on prevailing trends—at least not as much as most other brands.
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Old 1 April 2022, 10:40 PM   #71
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The only people who know for sure aren’t talking. At the trade show, Christian Selmoni was asked this and all he seemed to want to say is that the gold version was a better representation of the 222’s history and the 1970s aesthetic. There was no acknowledgment that a steel version would be forthcoming. He also affirmed that this piece will be limited production, and that it’s not meant to compete with flagship models—presumably a steel piece would be the same things, so if produced, only produced in extremely limited quantities. I suspect that for VC—a brand that produces in limited quantities as a baseline—that means a few dozen pieces?—or maybe very low 100s?

Kinda hard to think they won’t do it in steel, now that they’re tooled up and have done all the r&d. But who knows with these guys. They don’t seem to make decisions based on prevailing trends—at least not as much as most other brands.
thanks for the useful info. I also don't think that the steel version is gonna be produced soon. I agree with VC that the yellow gold is more suitable for 222.
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Old 1 April 2022, 11:29 PM   #72
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There will be steel models of the 222
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Old 1 April 2022, 11:46 PM   #73
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whenever i see a raclaims post i get excited
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Old 1 April 2022, 11:50 PM   #74
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You are such a heavy hitter..
cant take money to the grave brother!
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Old 1 April 2022, 11:52 PM   #75
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Old 2 April 2022, 12:52 AM   #76
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There will be steel models of the 222
Any inkling to share on timing?
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Old 2 April 2022, 02:55 AM   #77
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as a reward to those collecting yellow gold 222?
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Old 2 April 2022, 03:48 AM   #78
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Bracelet could be amazing but the rest of the watch looks tired and uncool unless you are in your 20s dressing up retro. If you are middle aged… you’ll regret it.


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Old 21 May 2022, 08:41 PM   #80
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I'd have to go against the crowd here.
As much as I respect the original model for what it was in the watch evolution history and for Vacheron. I am definitely not a buyer of this 222 today. I think it's design has not aged well at all. Hard pass for me.
I must say I am very very surprised by all the positive comments it gets.
I’m with you. I tried on the 222 last week, and my wife and I were very underwhelmed. It felt like a piece with a so-so design that faded into obscurity. In addition, the piece doesn’t showcase any superior finishing. You might not like the Royal Oak at first (I was in that camp), but when you held a Royal Oak, the finishing blew you away immediately.

I wanted to like the 222, like everyone else. Very surprised some proclaim the 222 was the release of the year, but hey I love opposing opinions… keeps things interesting.
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Old 21 May 2022, 09:17 PM   #81
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This one doesn’t work for me either. Different strokes…
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Old 22 May 2022, 12:50 AM   #82
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Been looking at t his model for some time... Now it is a hard pass for me, dawg.
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Old 22 May 2022, 02:53 AM   #83
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Definitely not something I would buy for its looks. Can’t get over the movement choice either. Fortunately won’t be a problem as they aren’t readily available I’m sure. Much prefer the VCO ultra thin white gold from a few years back.
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Old 23 June 2022, 04:16 AM   #84
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tried one in person. It's got a little subtleness about it. The gold is slightly mild, and less bling. The size, also smaller than modern sizes. I think it's a beautiful watch. But that price is a bit steep.

at 37mm, I can't see why one would prefer the 222 over a green dial with diamonds 15551or.
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Old 23 June 2022, 05:40 AM   #85
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I just don't like the "overly" retro design of the 222. When it first came out in W&W, I was hearing people just fall over backwards for this one. Bark & Jack sounded like he was going to get a heart attack.

I just don't get it. It just looks like someone got daddy's watch from the '70s.

One person's opinion. Obviously, seems like I'm in the minority.
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tried one in person. It's got a little subtleness about it. The gold is slightly mild, and less bling. The size, also smaller than modern sizes. I think it's a beautiful watch. But that price is a bit steep.

at 37mm, I can't see why one would prefer the 222 over a green dial with diamonds 15551or.

That's where I'm at. I told them for the price I'll take the gemset Daytona on oysterflex.

Even within VC the rose gold blue dial 4500 is so much more watch for less than this $69,000.
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I'd have to go against the crowd here.
As much as I respect the original model for what it was in the watch evolution history and for Vacheron. I am definitely not a buyer of this 222 today. I think it's design has not aged well at all. Hard pass for me.
I must say I am very very surprised by all the positive comments it gets.
I like the design of the 222 but I agree that it's dated looking. It doesn't have quite the avant garde impact of the Nautilus or Royal Oak nor the exquisite finishing of those two.

It would be like Patek bringing back the Beta 21 or the 3604 as an exercise in nostalgia.
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The whole point of the 222 being in the historiques collection is that it retains as much as possible for the original .

It’s not meant to compete against the 15551or as they are different watches, even though they are both 37mm anniversary pieces.

Nothing in the historiques collection is priced without a premium.

The Royal oak doesn’t have exquisite finishing, totally lost with that comment. What VC did need to do was put in a different rotor now it’s open case back.

222 will divide opinion for those that don’t like it. The OS Ultra thin is what you really want.


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Old 25 August 2022, 10:29 AM   #89
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Has the 222 hit boutiques yet? Anyone own one?
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Old 25 August 2022, 10:41 AM   #90
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Has the 222 hit boutiques yet? Anyone own one?

Not yet. I was told 18-24 months wait for what it's worth.
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