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Old 1 June 2018, 11:45 AM   #241
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Always preferred this model. never knew it was scarce. Nice article too.
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Old 12 June 2018, 08:32 AM   #242
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GMT's are my favorite watches, a jack of all trades, a tool watch with 3 time-zones, date and more than good enough for recreational diving.
Very well put.....a great watch!
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Old 15 June 2018, 10:50 AM   #243
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Hello to All, this is my first post in this great forum.

"3 time-zones" was it said?

Not for a 16700 which is the subject of this thread ... Only 2 of them.
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Old 28 June 2018, 11:09 PM   #244
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Hello to All, this is my first post in this great forum.

"3 time-zones" was it said?

Not for a 16700 which is the subject of this thread ... Only 2 of them.
No mate - 3. As is the case with any GMT with a rotating bezel

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Old 30 January 2019, 10:59 AM   #245
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Just to add to this with the help of jP (Springer) I determined there are 5 total dial variations for the 16700. The serials listed with each dial aren't necessarily comprehensive either as the sample size wasn't huge.

Mark I
1st Dial I found. Found in R, L, E, X, S, T, W, U Serials


Mark II
2nd Dial. Found in L, X, N, W, S, T Serials


Mark III/Mark IV
3rd T<25 Dial/1st Swiss dial. I guess we can consider it the 3rd and 4th versions. Found on U and A serials.


Mark V

Last one. Found on T and A serials.
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Old 30 January 2019, 11:08 AM   #246
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Bracelet Options/End Links
78360/501B
93150/501B
62150H 50/502B
78790/501B

Pepsi Bezels were all the blue back version


All papers labeled A30 until A serial. Then it was B for Pepsi N for Black. I believe this style with watermark was used for the entire production run in the US.


Accessories (USA models)

Map box for early serials.


Switched to the more common granite box



Boxes aren't concrete though as watches didn't ship with a box and could be paired with a box the dealer had laying around.

Booklets


Hang Tags
Green Serial Number Tag

Red Single Crown Hologram Chronometer Tag
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Old 3 February 2019, 06:44 PM   #247
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Could anyone confirm that 16700 never came with coke dial? I'm asking because I have a 16700A on my paper and Im told that A means black, B means Pepsi, and N means black?

Also, just out of curiosity, is Pepsi more rare or a all black bezel more rare on a 16700?
This is weird. I always thought:
A=coke
B=pepsi
N=black ("Noir")

And yes, the 16700 was only available on pepsi and all-black.
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Old 4 February 2019, 01:21 AM   #248
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This is weird. I always thought:
A=coke
B=pepsi
N=black ("Noir")

And yes, the 16700 was only available on pepsi and all-black.


Yup this is correct. But prior to ~1999 they were all labeled 16700A30 no matter the insert color.


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Old 4 February 2019, 04:16 AM   #249
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Could anyone confirm that 16700 never came with coke dial? I'm asking because I have a 16700A on my paper and Im told that A means black, B means Pepsi, and N means black?

Also, just out of curiosity, is Pepsi more rare or a all black bezel more rare on a 16700?
Just to confirm this commonly asked question.

The black/red (Coke) bezel insert was born on the original GMT II 16760, and carried over into the 16710. It is ONLY found on the GMT II; no GMT Master, to include the GMT 16700, was ever released with the black/red insert.

The confusion comes from the initial release of both models. The 16700A GMT I model was the initial release and was Pepsi fitted. The 16760A GMT II was the initial release and fitted with Coke inserts. The follow-on GMT II retained A suffix as Coke, the Pepsi was released later and coded B.
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Old 6 February 2019, 04:22 AM   #250
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Tools, the Coke bezel first appeared on the GMT reference 6542 and was back then in bachelite. So not sure what you mean by first appeared on the GMT II 16760... except if you are referring to the aluminium insert.
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Tools, the Coke bezel first appeared on the GMT reference 6542 and was back then in bachelite. So not sure what you mean by first appeared on the GMT II 16760... except if you are referring to the aluminium insert.
I think that's a common misconception. It was just a really dark blue in some cases. Coke did not show up until the 16760.
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Old 6 February 2019, 10:42 AM   #252
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Mea culpa! I wasn't aware of that...

Tools / sillo38, thanks to teaching me something new.
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