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Old 16 May 2018, 04:04 PM   #1
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15300....

So I finally got my hands on one of these. Wow.

For some background, I was pretty determined to snag a 15400 at the end of last year. Loved the aesthetics, 5 year warranty implemented, seemed like a great fit. However, I was incredibly underwhelmed with the fit when I eventually went somewhere and tried it on. I felt it was entirely too large for a dressier piece, even on my 7.25" wrist. I say that as a fan of the 42 ROO.

Back to the 15300, I honestly cannot believe they ever switched it up to the new model. The 15300 fits and looks SO much better on my wrist. I also like the dial layout more, when I saw it in person with the AP at 12 o'clock. Can't believe I waited so long to find one and check it out.

So now I'm sitting here hoping that either 1. Prices seep back down AND I can find a near mint model or 2. A 15500 is released next year and comes back down to 39-40mm (I'm going to say with quite some certainty that this is probably not happening).


Those who have handled/owned both the 15300 and 15400......do you truly enjoy the increase in size? or purchased partially because it's the only new model you can buy?





*Oh, and sorry in advance to any 15400 owners for my over the top opinion on this
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Old 16 May 2018, 09:54 PM   #2
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Have you tried on a 15450? Wondering how the 15300 compares as Iíve only been able to try on the former .


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Old 16 May 2018, 10:38 PM   #3
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Have you tried on a 15450? Wondering how the 15300 compares as I’ve only been able to try on the former .


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Yup, and it's a drastic difference, definitely looked too dainty to my eye and wasn't even a consideration. I honestly see why it's positioned as a women's model by AP. Aside from the overall case being small, the bracelet is more narrow and feminine. Here's a pic (not mine) where you can clearly see how the case and bracelets differ:



Another thing to take into account, is how the 15300 and 15400/15450 bezels differ. The 15400 has too much dial and not enough bezel. Honestly, I think the 15450 has the perfect amount of bezel for its dial. The smaller bezel of the 15400/15450 kind of elongates the watch even more, the bigger bezel of the 15300 kind of 'beef' it up and compact a bit.

Here's another pic (again not mine) to show you 15450 v 15300 and you can clearly see the difference in how the watches are perceived. The 15300 just exudes masculinity in my eyes.








I honestly don't understand why AP only offers the 37/41, 4mm is a huge difference and IMO was even more noticeable in person than I realized in pictures online. A lot of people say we have the 39 with the Jumbo, but that's a weak argument as it has no seconds, no quick set date, a different dial layout and only comes in blue. All of those things completely rule it out for me, the only thing I like about it is the thinness.
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Old 16 May 2018, 11:32 PM   #4
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Love the 15300 but the first two links flare out too much on my small wrist. Agree the 15400 is just way too big
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Old 17 May 2018, 12:58 AM   #5
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Yup, and it's a drastic difference, definitely looked too dainty to my eye and wasn't even a consideration. I honestly see why it's positioned as a women's model by AP. Aside from the overall case being small, the bracelet is more narrow and feminine. Here's a pic (not mine) where you can clearly see how the case and bracelets differ:



Another thing to take into account, is how the 15300 and 15400/15450 bezels differ. The 15400 has too much dial and not enough bezel. Honestly, I think the 15450 has the perfect amount of bezel for its dial. The smaller bezel of the 15400/15450 kind of elongates the watch even more, the bigger bezel of the 15300 kind of 'beef' it up and compact a bit.

Here's another pic (again not mine) to show you 15450 v 15300 and you can clearly see the difference in how the watches are perceived. The 15300 just exudes masculinity in my eyes.








I honestly don't understand why AP only offers the 37/41, 4mm is a huge difference and IMO was even more noticeable in person than I realized in pictures online. A lot of people say we have the 39 with the Jumbo, but that's a weak argument as it has no seconds, no quick set date, a different dial layout and only comes in blue. All of those things completely rule it out for me, the only thing I like about it is the thinness.


Thanks- great comparison , much appreciated!


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Old 17 May 2018, 01:13 AM   #6
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15300....

Agreed. I've tried on the 400 and the 300 and the 300 fit me best by far (7" flat wrist).

I had a deposit on a white dial a few years ago and figured if I'm paying that kind of money I should add the extra few bucks and get the dial I want- blue... well a few years later I'm still searching and pricing has done nothing but go up



Best of luck!

The one I had a deposit on:
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Old 17 May 2018, 02:38 AM   #7
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I find the 300 a little squished and bezel heavy and the 400 a little wide and dial heavy so a 40mm would be my ideal. I do think the ROOs are better balanced.
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Old 17 May 2018, 04:55 AM   #8
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I find the 300 a little squished and bezel heavy and the 400 a little wide and dial heavy so a 40mm would be my ideal. I do think the ROOs are better balanced.
It’s so odd, honestly.

That was my thinking on the 40mm too, a 15500 at 40 with a perfect dial/bezel ratio I definitely feel the 15300 is better proportioned than the 15400 though.
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Old 17 May 2018, 05:50 AM   #9
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i believe there are two 15300 models listed in classifieds forum right now.
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Old 17 May 2018, 05:55 AM   #10
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We share pretty much the exact same experience, down to liking the 42mm ROO as well, which I have two of. The 15400 never really did it for me after a short romance period with it. Bought a blue 15300, sold the 15400 and never looked back.
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Old 17 May 2018, 06:13 AM   #11
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Love my 15300, tried a 15400 on once and it looked ok but the 39mm 15300 looks miles better on my small wrists

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Old 17 May 2018, 06:22 AM   #12
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i believe there are two 15300 models listed in classifieds forum right now.
Yeah but prices have went nuts. I’m not paying that markup that only just came the past 12 months. Last year those exact pieces were 30% cheaper. These aren’t new models you simply can’t find in stores, so I’m going to wait a bit and see where the market goes.
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Old 17 May 2018, 06:24 AM   #13
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Also, great pics gentleman! Happy to see others feel the same way. Maybe AP will make our dreams come true with a 15300/15400 Ďtweenerí piece
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Old 17 May 2018, 06:42 AM   #14
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Yeah but prices have went nuts. Iím not paying that markup that only just came the past 12 months. Last year those exact pieces were 30% cheaper. These arenít new models you simply canít find in stores, so Iím going to wait a bit and see where the market goes.
Beg to differ but I may be biased. I do not see the prices going anywhere but up and I do not see AP coming out with a 39mm variant to compete with their precious 202.

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Old 17 May 2018, 06:49 AM   #15
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Beg to differ but I may be biased. I do not see the prices going anywhere but up and I do not see AP coming out with a 39mm variant to compete with their precious 202.

You just had to throw a pic in there with that comment to make it worse didn’t you?

I’m a firm believer in a market downturn in the near future. I’m quite certain I can buy any used model cheaper then as opposed to now, which is practically the hottest SS sports model market I’ve ever known. I seriously, cannot think of another instance in recent history that would be a *worse* time than now to buy a watch grey/used. It’s absolute insanity and I feel id be buying the peak, 100%. No rush on my end, I can wait to save thousands.
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Old 17 May 2018, 06:51 AM   #16
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You just had to throw a pic in there with that comment to make it worse didn’t you?

I’m a firm believer in a market downturn in the near future. I’m fairly certain I can buy used models cheaper during this time frame. No rush on my end, I can wait to save thousands.
Too tempting to pass up!

Enjoy the hunt and hope you get what you seek!
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Old 17 May 2018, 06:52 AM   #17
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I've had the 15300, and I ended up trading it up for a 15400. I have a 6.75 inch wrist. I don't think it's too big, although I wouldn't mind having a 39mm either. Here's a picture taken while facing a mirror.

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Old 17 May 2018, 06:55 AM   #18
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Too tempting to pass up!

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Thanks bud! Thatís part of the fun

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I've had the 15300, and I ended up trading it up for a 15400. I have a 6.75 inch wrist. I don't think it's too big, although I wouldn't mind having a 39mm either. Here's a picture taken while facing a mirror.

Are you sure your wrist, where you wear your watch is 6.75Ē? Certainly looks bigger...most others who post claiming a 6.75Ē wrist have lugs close to hanging off. Yours arenít even close...
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Thanks bud! Thatís part of the fun



Are you sure your wrist, where you wear your watch is 6.75Ē? Certainly looks bigger...most others who post claiming a 6.75Ē wrist have lugs close to hanging off. Yours arenít even close...
Yeah, I think he might be measuring wrong. I have a 7" wrist and this is what the 15400 looked like on me:

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Yeah, I think he might be measuring wrong. I have a 7" wrist and this is what the 15400 looked like on me:

Exactly what I was thinking. Mine is 7.25” and that 15400 looks smaller on him that it did on me Actually, to be honest, his picture looks like a 15450 and not even a 15400 to begin with.
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Thanks bud! Thatís part of the fun



Are you sure your wrist, where you wear your watch is 6.75Ē? Certainly looks bigger...most others who post claiming a 6.75Ē wrist have lugs close to hanging off. Yours arenít even close...
Yup. The key is to look at the mirror. Here's another shot that makes it look bigger because the camera is closer to the watch.

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Yup. The key is to look at the mirror. Here's another shot that makes it look bigger because the camera is closer to the watch.







That looks like a different watch and arm









Not saying you're lying or something silly, there just appears to be a definitive difference in the appearance and fit. Did you perhaps lose a ton of weight between these two pictures?
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Old 17 May 2018, 09:28 AM   #23
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I recently picked up the 15300OR , and it looks superb. My wrists are just under 7" and I have a feeling the 15400 would just look too big. Very happy with my 15300 though!
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I recently picked up the 15300OR , and it looks superb. My wrists are just under 7" and I have a feeling the 15400 would just look too big. Very happy with my 15300 though!
Post a pic, never too much 15300 goodness!
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I do miss this one and on a 6.75 inch wrist.

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I do miss this one and on a 6.75 inch wrist.





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That looks like a different watch and arm
Not saying you're lying or something silly, there just appears to be a definitive difference in the appearance and fit. Did you perhaps lose a ton of weight between these two pictures?
when looking/taking photo of watch on the wrist, the ulna and radius are crossed over, making that part of the wrist appear smaller.

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the photo of the wrist in the mirror, the ulna and radius are perfectly parallel, and the watch is now sitting on the flattest/widest position of the wrist/forearm... thus giving the appearance of smaller watch...or more correctly, a wider surface of the wrist.

and this will be more apparent if u usually wear ur watch higher toward the elbow. when u wear it very close to the wrist (at bend like in Fred's last photo) then there's less change in surface area of that part of the wrist cuz it's further away from where the ulna+radius cross.

wow... finally kinesiology in horology!
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when looking/taking photo of watch on the wrist, the ulna and radius are crossed over, making that part of the wrist appear smaller.

vs.

the photo of the wrist in the mirror, the ulna and radius are perfectly parallel, and the watch is now sitting on the flattest/widest position of the wrist/forearm... thus giving the appearance of smaller watch...or more correctly, a wider surface of the wrist.

and this will be more apparent if u usually wear ur watch higher toward the elbow. when u wear it very close to the wrist (at bend like in Fred's last photo) then there's less change in surface area of that part of the wrist cuz it's further away from where the ulna+radius cross.


wow... finally kinesiology in horology!

Mind = blown
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when looking/taking photo of watch on the wrist, the ulna and radius are crossed over, making that part of the wrist appear smaller.

vs.

the photo of the wrist in the mirror, the ulna and radius are perfectly parallel, and the watch is now sitting on the flattest/widest position of the wrist/forearm... thus giving the appearance of smaller watch...or more correctly, a wider surface of the wrist.

and this will be more apparent if u usually wear ur watch higher toward the elbow. when u wear it very close to the wrist (at bend like in Fred's last photo) then there's less change in surface area of that part of the wrist cuz it's further away from where the ulna+radius cross.

wow... finally kinesiology in horology!
That explains it! I definitely didnít lose weight. Those two pics were probably taken two weeks apart, max.
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