ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
21 September 2020, 05:50 AM | #1 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 1,655
|
Beater Sub
I want a vintage sub as a "beater" that I don't have to worry about damaging or swapping parts on. I love the look of tropical/cream dials.
Any idea where to look for a "frankenstein" vintage sub that has already had a few parts swapped out for newer ones? Honestly I don't even mind something with the entire movement swapped, etc. |
21 September 2020, 06:33 AM | #2 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 5,907
|
These show up all the time on eBay, and I'm sure you can find several 5513s right now with a lot of service parts, usually dial/hands/insert. I don't call these Frankensteins, but the service parts don't have much value. The problem is that sellers often think they're worth more than they really are, so you may need to wait for an auction.
__________________
@oldwatchdan on IG |
21 September 2020, 06:57 AM | #3 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: USA
Watch: Lots
Posts: 4,354
|
Unfortunately, I think the ship sailed on that idea several years ago. I see “beater” vintage subs everyday.....the problem is everyone thinks they have something much more special than they do and are asking “non-beater” money.
You can wear anything as a beater, just be prepared to pay.
__________________
DSSD is the king of all Rolex |
21 September 2020, 07:13 AM | #4 | |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: jP
Location: Texas
Watch: GMT-MASTER
Posts: 17,197
|
Quote:
__________________
Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics. |
|
21 September 2020, 07:21 AM | #5 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 1,655
|
That's my problem too...it seems like a lot of asking prices don't discount enough for the condition some of these pieces are in but I guess it's just a game of watching eBay!
|
21 September 2020, 08:02 AM | #6 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Japan
Posts: 4,344
|
Quote:
Intentionally buying a frankenstein is just pouring money down the drain. Do yourself a favor. |
|
21 September 2020, 08:55 AM | #7 | |
TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron
Join Date: May 2007
Real Name: Larry
Location: Mojave Desert
Watch: GMT's
Posts: 43,049
|
Quote:
New and replacement parts on an older watch doesn't make it a "frankenstein", it makes it a well maintained time-piece that would bring top dollar.
__________________
(Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member |
|
21 September 2020, 08:56 AM | #8 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Monaro, NSW
Posts: 846
|
Beater Sub
Buy new and turn it into a beater all by yourself. Once you make the decision that its a watch for life and not an "investment", it becomes very easy to build your own story into it.
|
21 September 2020, 09:34 AM | #9 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: montreal
Posts: 622
|
I had the same fantasy but like others said I quickly realized beater subs don't equal beater prices lol. I ended up settling on a pretty nice Tudor Lolipop Sub for about 5k USD instead.
__________________
5513,16613,16710,116233,9411/0 |
21 September 2020, 09:50 AM | #10 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Texas
Watch: Tudor Snowflake
Posts: 1,044
|
All day every day... I wouldnt call it a beater, but its a watch I wear daily that I dont worry about. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
21 September 2020, 10:12 AM | #11 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Real Name: Justin
Location: Jupiter, FL
Watch: 1530,1665,1680
Posts: 2,054
|
I used to wear a 16750 daily but since prices went crazy I bought a beater sub to wear daily. The lume even glows
|
21 September 2020, 10:48 AM | #12 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 1,655
|
Quote:
Where did you pick it up? Any good ideas on where to find a similar watch? |
|
21 September 2020, 11:12 AM | #13 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Real Name: Justin
Location: Jupiter, FL
Watch: 1530,1665,1680
Posts: 2,054
|
I found it at a jewelry shop with a refinished dial and in need of service. The insert was really the only thing I liked about the watch but I wanted something cheap to wear daily. I sourced a replacement dial and hands and love the result.
I would look local and be prepared to pay cash. You never know what you might find. |
21 September 2020, 12:58 PM | #14 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Real Name: Filipe
Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah
Watch: Never too many
Posts: 1,898
|
Two liner Submariner 14060M, beautiful balanced ideal beater with Luminova that glows like hell:
|
21 September 2020, 01:53 PM | #15 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Japan
Posts: 4,344
|
Quote:
The 14060M is the archetypal beater for me. Rugged as hell, simple, relatively affordable, easily serviceable, versatile for any bracelet/strap choice, no date complication to bother with, and not bad looking either. OP, you'd be much better off considering something like this rather than some kind of franken vintage piece. |
|
21 September 2020, 02:52 PM | #16 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: United States
Watch: me buy Watches
Posts: 3,955
|
Quote:
__________________
The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some" |
|
22 September 2020, 06:00 AM | #17 | |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Texas
Watch: Tudor Snowflake
Posts: 1,044
|
Beater Sub
Quote:
I agree, there isnt any real good reason to buy a Frankenstein watch. You will spend the same amount. Is a Tudor 79090 out of the picture... meaning does it have to be a Rolex... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
|
22 September 2020, 08:21 AM | #18 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Dallas tx
Watch: 16610,1675,16030
Posts: 1,135
|
The times of cheap beater Subs sadly seems to be over.
Even the rough ones are over $6000.00 on EBay. |
23 September 2020, 12:47 AM | #19 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 123
|
That is beautiful !!!
|
23 September 2020, 02:13 AM | #20 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Redditch
Posts: 69
|
|
23 September 2020, 12:26 PM | #21 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Canada
Watch: 1680
Posts: 1,396
|
Have a look at offerings from forum member ponycar350 (no affiliation). I find he often has some very well used (beaterish) pieces at reasonable prices.
|
25 September 2020, 12:24 AM | #22 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: NC
Posts: 14
|
|
25 September 2020, 08:07 AM | #23 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Japan
Posts: 4,344
|
|
25 September 2020, 08:35 AM | #24 |
TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron
Join Date: May 2007
Real Name: Larry
Location: Mojave Desert
Watch: GMT's
Posts: 43,049
|
Here is one of my Beater Subs. Cost me $3,800 brand new, but wears like a million bucks.
It's been in more than a couple of oceans and seas too. MSub8.JPG
__________________
(Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member |
25 September 2020, 08:38 AM | #25 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Australia
Watch: 1603
Posts: 326
|
Quote:
|
|
25 September 2020, 09:01 AM | #26 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Real Name: Filipe
Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah
Watch: Never too many
Posts: 1,898
|
@Tools, I am in the search for the correct anchor for a 1994 Sub.
Yours above has what seems to be the latter issue of the Sub anchor, can you please disclose its prod. year, please? Thank you so much! Filipe P.S. Please, if you know which is the correct anchor for 1994... (flat 3, round 3, long stem?) |
25 September 2020, 09:08 AM | #27 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Perth
Posts: 974
|
Love Tudors - especially the lollipop. Good choice sir.
|
25 September 2020, 09:45 AM | #28 | |
TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron
Join Date: May 2007
Real Name: Larry
Location: Mojave Desert
Watch: GMT's
Posts: 43,049
|
Quote:
Rolex did not really package watches with these accessories, the Dealer had them in a box and just reached in, picked one out, and stuck it in the package. Even when Rolex changed depth ratings on the Sub Date with the 16800, they didn't make new anchors, they just glued a green dot with the new rating over top of the old rating. As with most things Rolex, you cannot draw a line in the sand - there was always carry over and many times it was through several years.
__________________
(Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member |
|
25 September 2020, 10:00 AM | #29 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Real Name: Filipe
Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah
Watch: Never too many
Posts: 1,898
|
Quote:
|
|
25 September 2020, 10:36 AM | #30 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Japan
Posts: 4,344
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|
*Banners
Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.