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Daveclock · 8 February 2019, 11:14 PM

Hi, sorry if this is not the place to ask this question, but I am still new to the forum and this question has been bothering me for a while!
Can't seem to find an answer when I search, myself!
I am based in UK, and hoping to get an LVc or BLNR (ideally at not mad over % - like I have seen!)

As for "trusted sellers" as they keep being mentioned - are they also the same as "GREY" sellers/dealers or are they different things?
Is just a good regular seller with track record in deals a TS?

BTW. I am expecting this post to be shortly killed off or moved - as the last one was before I could get an answer to my question!?!

tyler1980 · 8 February 2019, 11:15 PM

in common usage, yes a grey dealer is a non AD selling watches. Some are more trusted than others

Technically though a grey market watch is one that never entered the AD supply chain which is not the case with Rolex watches. Every one was sold from an AD first so every one is preowned. secondary or pre owned dealer would be more accurate

beshannon · 8 February 2019, 11:16 PM

A "Trusted Seller" is someone with a stellar reputation backed by reviews and a lot of transactions.

"Grey" or the "Grey Market" refers to the source of the inventory.

In the end, you should always buy the seller first. All the inventory comes from Geneva anyway.

RichM · 8 February 2019, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beshannon

A "Trusted Seller" is someone with a stellar reputation backed by reviews and a lot of transactions.

"Grey" or the "Grey Market" refers to the source of the inventory.

In the end, you should always buy the seller first. All the inventory comes from Geneva anyway.

This just about sums it up.

Can’t stress enough, buy the seller first.

RHIII · 8 February 2019, 11:21 PM

^^^^^^^ pretty much sums it up.

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jrs146 · 8 February 2019, 11:44 PM

As Tyler already stated...

Most of the watches that “trusted sellers” have are not Gray maker watches, they’re just used.

A gray market watch is one that was not originally sold through the AD channel. It won’t come with a valid warranty, but is otherwise the same.

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Daveclock · 8 February 2019, 11:44 PM

Thankyou all! much clearer!

I came back to the market having sold my 16610 mid last year (OK,ish with that decision! - as I planned to put money+top up to buy the new watch) - but sadly not been able to find one at a realistic (to me) price!
Wait list with AD's still looks not to be yielding the goods - I have really tried to give my money to charity/Rolex)

The quest continues....

(also, thanks - I did not know about the "Open Discussion Forum" part until now!!

marcusp23 · 9 February 2019, 12:15 AM

Good info from others. I’ll also add that another difference in buying from a trusted seller vs a grey market seller is that typically you get the manufacturers warranty with a trusted seller, as those watches are originally sourced from an AD (typically). Usually won’t if buying on the grey market

8 February 2019, 11:14 PM	#1
Daveclock "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Dave Location: UK Watch: ing and waiting! Posts: 864	Trusted Seller = Grey? Hi, sorry if this is not the place to ask this question, but I am still new to the forum and this question has been bothering me for a while! Can't seem to find an answer when I search, myself! I am based in UK, and hoping to get an LVc or BLNR (ideally at not mad over % - like I have seen!) As for "trusted sellers" as they keep being mentioned - are they also the same as "GREY" sellers/dealers or are they different things? Is just a good regular seller with track record in deals a TS? BTW. I am expecting this post to be shortly killed off or moved - as the last one was before I could get an answer to my question!?!

8 February 2019, 11:15 PM	#2
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	in common usage, yes a grey dealer is a non AD selling watches. Some are more trusted than others Technically though a grey market watch is one that never entered the AD supply chain which is not the case with Rolex watches. Every one was sold from an AD first so every one is preowned. secondary or pre owned dealer would be more accurate __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

8 February 2019, 11:16 PM	#3
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	A "Trusted Seller" is someone with a stellar reputation backed by reviews and a lot of transactions. "Grey" or the "Grey Market" refers to the source of the inventory. In the end, you should always buy the seller first. All the inventory comes from Geneva anyway. __________________ Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent

8 February 2019, 11:44 PM	#6
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,821	As Tyler already stated... Most of the watches that “trusted sellers” have are not Gray maker watches, they’re just used. A gray market watch is one that was not originally sold through the AD channel. It won’t come with a valid warranty, but is otherwise the same. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

8 February 2019, 11:21 PM	#5
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	^^^^^^^ pretty much sums it up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 February 2019, 11:44 PM	#7
Daveclock "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Dave Location: UK Watch: ing and waiting! Posts: 864	Thankyou all! much clearer! I came back to the market having sold my 16610 mid last year (OK,ish with that decision! - as I planned to put money+top up to buy the new watch) - but sadly not been able to find one at a realistic (to me) price! Wait list with AD's still looks not to be yielding the goods - I have really tried to give my money to charity/Rolex) The quest continues.... (also, thanks - I did not know about the "Open Discussion Forum" part until now!!

9 February 2019, 12:15 AM	#8
marcusp23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Texas Watch: Sub, DJ41, CHNR an Posts: 468	Good info from others. I’ll also add that another difference in buying from a trusted seller vs a grey market seller is that typically you get the manufacturers warranty with a trusted seller, as those watches are originally sourced from an AD (typically). Usually won’t if buying on the grey market

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