16753 Dial Advice please

[shedlock2000]

Hi All,

I am looking at this watch on Chrono24 — can anyone tell me if this is a service dial or not, please? I don’t know what a ‘Swiss only’ dial means on a 16753:





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[springer]

What year is the watch? Insert is service or post-2000 when it was the standard insert.

[shedlock2000]

Well, the listing says 1976 (which is my first clue, as the non-nipple dial didn't come out until '85). However, buddy the seller says that the watch has all original parts!

As you know, I am all about the service dial and handset, so this is a benefit to me -- but I wanted to be sure I was right in my intuitions before telling the seller as much.

[Dan S]

Serial?

[shedlock2000]

None provided in the listing, Dan -- so I am not sure.

I am not even sure it is a 1976 (as the listing indicates), as the handstack is incorrect for a 1575.

[hutch300]

Maybe he means original rolex not original to the watch.

[shedlock2000]

Originally Posted by hutch300

Maybe he means original rolex not original to the watch.

I suspect there may be some dealer apathy and lack of exactness (odd, given that the watch is listed in Germany and they are unusually anal about that kind of thing). There may also be some translation difficulty.

I am torn between this and a 1675 that I have been working on for a while. This is more money, but RSC still offer support for the 3075, while the pepsi is cheaper but has no real servicing support from RSC anymore. Up here in the boonies, that is quite an issue (there are very few watchmakers who will service them as there are no old watchmakers and no available parts).

[TuRo]

I'm not sure why there is so much debate tbh...

It's a service dial 100%

The 16753 was stopped about 6-7 years before the 99/00 Swiss dial fitted to the 16713 with a bronze dial.

This later 16713 sapphire glass piece may have had a swiss dial (after a few years of T25 tritium) for two years, but it was a light bronze sunburst or the non-sunburst affair, and nothing like to one in the photos, which apes the early tritium brown shaded 16753 of which ALL where tritium T25 (nipple and non-nipple).

[shedlock2000]

Originally Posted by TuRo

I'm not sure why there is so much debate tbh...

It's a service dial 100%

The 16753 was stopped about 6-7 years before the 99/00 Swiss dial fitted to the 16713 with a bronze dial.

This later 16713 sapphire glass piece may have had a swiss dial (after a few years of T25 tritium) for two years, but it was a light bronze sunburst or the non-sunburst affair, and nothing like to one in the photos, which apes the early tritium brown shaded 16753 of which ALL where tritium T25 (nipple and non-nipple).

Well, the watch definitely has an acrylic crystal and the wider bezel of the 16753 -- so I am sure that is the correct reference for the watch. Assuming the serial numbers match with the date provided in the listing, thein this should have had a nipple dial. I have previously owned a 1986 16753 that had this dial -- albeit marked 'Swiss - <25' (same purple/burgundy sunburst colourway). That was an original dial (so far as I know), but the dial in this clearly doesn't match the year. I assumed that a service dial would have been replaced with a nipple service dial (hence my confusion).

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by shedlock2000

Well, the watch definitely has an acrylic crystal and the wider bezel of the 16753 -- so I am sure that is the correct reference for the watch. Assuming the serial numbers match with the date provided in the listing, thein this should have had a nipple dial. I have previously owned a 1986 16753 that had this dial -- albeit marked 'Swiss - <25' (same purple/burgundy sunburst colourway). That was an original dial (so far as I know), but the dial in this clearly doesn't match the year. I assumed that a service dial would have been replaced with a nipple service dial (hence my confusion).

Indeed this is the standard Luminova 16753 service dial.

Btw - No service Luminova 'swiss' nipple dials as far as I know, except those put into service stock in the 80s and those gone probably by 90s.

[shedlock2000]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Indeed this is the standard 16753 service dial. Btw - No service Luminova 'swiss' nipple dials as far as I know, except those put into service stock in the 80s and those gone probably by 90s.

Good to know! Thanks for the info. I’ve asked the guy for more info, but I’ve heard nothing back from him to press — so I’ve a feeling he may be avoiding having a conversation in which I tell him he’s asking too much for it!


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[HerbertPhillips]

Yep. That's a 16753 luminova eye of the tiger dial. Rolex service centers used these around 1999-2000 then I think went (super-luminova?) with a Japanese company? The "Swiss" at six is the hallmark.