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Old 31 March 2023, 09:31 PM   #1
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Red Submariner Listed on TRF

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Listing was just removed, maybe for a listing violation. (He listed six watches versus the allowed daily of 5).

This was the prior link, listed by user: Hailwood Peters
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=898198

Still listed on their website
https://hailwoodpeters.com.au/en/wat...d-1975-9822554

Careful out there -
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Old 1 April 2023, 06:51 PM   #2
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Old 2 April 2023, 10:51 AM   #3
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Talk to me — fake dial? Refinished? Trying to learn.


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Old 2 April 2023, 05:48 PM   #4
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Sorry, thought it was obvious.

Dial is no good. Refinished (if on original plate)..

He calls it a Mk-6 on his website, nothing looks like Mk-6. Compare with the trio of Red Sub dials above, from the top - Mk4 Mk5 Mk6 (since those are the feet first dials).

It's fun to find the inconsistensies. Use the markers I pointed on his dial so you can see the differences to the other three..
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Old 4 April 2023, 12:07 PM   #5
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Sorry, thought it was obvious.

Dial is no good. Refinished (if on original plate)..

He calls it a Mk-6 on his website, nothing looks like Mk-6. Compare with the trio of Red Sub dials above, from the top - Mk4 Mk5 Mk6 (since those are the feet first dials).

It's fun to find the inconsistensies. Use the markers I pointed on his dial so you can see the differences to the other three..

Thank you very much for the learning. 1680 is not one of the watches I know well. Greatly appreciate your “Eagle eye” and willingness to share.


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Old 4 April 2023, 01:26 PM   #6
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Sometimes I think I know a little, but then I see something like what the OP spotted and realize I know nothing.
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Old 9 April 2023, 11:59 AM   #7
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Sometimes I think I know a little, but then I see something like what the OP spotted and realize I know nothing.

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Old 10 April 2023, 07:50 AM   #8
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Hands are fake too.
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Old 14 April 2023, 08:18 AM   #9
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Two weeks and it's still up at the website. I would think that listing a red Sub with a fake dial and probably other issues would not be good for business.

It has also been posted on here too:

https://gmtforum.com/viewtopic.php?f...960ff9d39#p873
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Old 14 April 2023, 11:20 AM   #10
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Two weeks and it's still up at the website. I would think that listing a red Sub with a fake dial and probably other issues would not be good for business.

It has also been posted on here too:

https://gmtforum.com/viewtopic.php?f...960ff9d39#p873
Someone should let him know directly...

Got two threads running saying its fake dial and hands... not a good look at all.
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Old 14 April 2023, 06:25 PM   #11
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Also listed on Chrono24. Report it there as well..

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...id27274927.htm
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Old 14 April 2023, 10:14 PM   #12
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Prob knows it’s fake….
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Old 15 April 2023, 02:57 AM   #13
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Listing on Chrono24 removed..
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Old 2 May 2023, 02:11 AM   #14
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In the same case, I’m pretty sure this explorer have a fake patina
Looks too much orange for me for a 1996 watch.
https://hailwoodpeters.com.au/en/wat...rer-ii-8999988
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Old 9 May 2023, 05:00 PM   #15
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In the same case, I’m pretty sure this explorer have a fake patina
Looks too much orange for me for a 1996 watch.
https://hailwoodpeters.com.au/en/wat...rer-ii-8999988
Mines 94 and it's just slightly off white yellowish
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Old 8 June 2023, 02:00 AM   #16
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Nice to piggyback on the extensive knowledge of the forum members. What a world...
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