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Roy7 · 30 April 2016, 11:06 PM

Hello Everyone,

I always cringe at the "this vs that" threads' because lets be honest, it all comes down to personal taste.

That being said, I do feel like comparing to fairly similar watches and getting the general opinion.

The 5035 seems like a phenomenal value (preowned), and looks gorgeous, and it's a patek.

The Langematik big-date also looks gorgeous, costs the same, and way less complicated (although the big-date complication is nice).

So I'm just curious as to the opinion of the peanut gallery.

Thanks!

KarlS · 30 April 2016, 11:17 PM

5035 is AC and if ALS bit boring

mps354 · 30 April 2016, 11:28 PM

Both are top notch but all else equal I'd definitely go patek for the calendar feature

PJ S · 30 April 2016, 11:41 PM

As neither would fit my wrist, then it’s based entirely upon looks – the L&S walks it.
Even their own AC wipes the floor with that Patek, since for the same size of watch it’s cleaner looking and far more legible, as well as manages to fit in a moonphase feature.

subtona · 30 April 2016, 11:48 PM

If the price is similar, I'd rather have the Patek on my wrist.

I'm not familiar w that ALS model, I could be swayed if it has a manual movement?

jon_jon · 1 May 2016, 12:53 AM

My advice is always try on the watches on the wrist whenever possible as they may look quite different in person as compared to online photos (especially when you are spending $20K+ USD on a watch).

Having said that, this year marks Patek Philippe's 20 year anniversary of the Annual Calendar and reference 5035 is the one they introduced back in 1996. I know everyone is talking about the Nautilus 40 year anniversary, but the Annual Calendar is a very respected complication within the watch industry.

I have a lot of respect for ALS watches. They are at the pinnacle of German watch manufacturing and the watch above is an excellent example of a modern dress watch. However no one will mistake a ALS watch for a Patek Philippe as ALS follows more of a Bauhaus design.

There will be fans of both watches. Depending on when the 5035 was manufactured and how it was worn, you may need to consider servicing cost if the watch hasn't been serviced recently.

I vote for the 5035. But then this is a Patek sub-forum!

Passionata · 1 May 2016, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarlS

5035 is AC and if ALS bit boring

This

watchucallit · 1 May 2016, 02:30 AM

I like both brands and in some comparisons I would select the ALS over PAtek but in this specific comparison I would take the Patek. I like the calendar functions and as someone already stated-- I think this particular ALS is a bit boring in its appearance.

ec00421 · 1 May 2016, 03:41 AM

Pp between these two

Le Chef · 1 May 2016, 03:59 AM

A beautiful piece that trumps the AC of the Patek.

incontrol · 1 May 2016, 04:24 AM

Annual calendar watches are very useful. If I was looking for a pilot style watch, the ALS fits the bill otherwise i'ld go Patek.

enjoythemusic · 1 May 2016, 06:37 AM

Check them on your wrist the 5035 is 'small' and current fashion is larger. Patek prices for smaller pieces are falling so bargain for extra good deals.

el1125 · 1 May 2016, 07:39 AM

Patek....99% of the time..

soundserious · 1 May 2016, 08:32 AM

Used to own a 5035 and really liked it. Great watch and daily wearer. I'd highly recommen it! Not a fan of that particular Lange but rest assured it is top notch.

I have a platinum Datograph as my Lange....not really relevant...not sure why I mentioned that actually...

jag32 · 23 March 2019, 11:49 AM

The 5035 can be had for the cost of a new Calatrava. I love mine and would recommend it to anyone. The history alone is worth it.

jag32 · 23 March 2019, 12:14 PM

Presenting the Patek Phillipe 5035J. Annual calendar complications? Check. Deployant clasp? Check. Average cost? Only about $19.5k... less than a Calatrava The best value in all of Patek world.

CamSLC · 23 March 2019, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jag32

Presenting the Patek Phillipe 5035J. Annual calendar complications? Check. Deployant clasp? Check. Average cost? Less than a Calatrava! Just $19.5k. The best value in all of Patek world.

Nice looking watch

This thread is almost 3 years old though.

Tan · 27 March 2019, 08:29 AM

5035 definitely best value in the Patek world that you can buy pre-owned.

jag32 · 27 March 2019, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tan

5035 definitely best value in the Patek world that you can buy pre-owned.

No doubt about it! That's why I bought mine!

30 April 2016, 11:48 PM	#5
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,997	If the price is similar, I'd rather have the Patek on my wrist. I'm not familiar w that ALS model, I could be swayed if it has a manual movement? __________________

1 May 2016, 03:59 AM	#10
Le Chef "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,005	Look for a pre-loved Langematik Perpetual A beautiful piece that trumps the AC of the Patek.

1 May 2016, 04:24 AM	#11
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	Annual calendar watches are very useful. If I was looking for a pilot style watch, the ALS fits the bill otherwise i'ld go Patek. __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

1 May 2016, 06:37 AM	#12
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,454	Check them on your wrist the 5035 is 'small' and current fashion is larger. Patek prices for smaller pieces are falling so bargain for extra good deals. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

1 May 2016, 08:32 AM	#14
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Used to own a 5035 and really liked it. Great watch and daily wearer. I'd highly recommen it! Not a fan of that particular Lange but rest assured it is top notch. I have a platinum Datograph as my Lange....not really relevant...not sure why I mentioned that actually... __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

30 April 2016, 11:17 PM	#2
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	5035 is AC and if ALS bit boring

30 April 2016, 11:28 PM	#3
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,972	Both are top notch but all else equal I'd definitely go patek for the calendar feature

30 April 2016, 11:41 PM	#4
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	As neither would fit my wrist, then it’s based entirely upon looks – the L&S walks it. Even their own AC wipes the floor with that Patek, since for the same size of watch it’s cleaner looking and far more legible, as well as manages to fit in a moonphase feature.

1 May 2016, 12:53 AM	#6
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,341	My advice is always try on the watches on the wrist whenever possible as they may look quite different in person as compared to online photos (especially when you are spending $20K+ USD on a watch). Having said that, this year marks Patek Philippe's 20 year anniversary of the Annual Calendar and reference 5035 is the one they introduced back in 1996. I know everyone is talking about the Nautilus 40 year anniversary, but the Annual Calendar is a very respected complication within the watch industry. I have a lot of respect for ALS watches. They are at the pinnacle of German watch manufacturing and the watch above is an excellent example of a modern dress watch. However no one will mistake a ALS watch for a Patek Philippe as ALS follows more of a Bauhaus design. There will be fans of both watches. Depending on when the 5035 was manufactured and how it was worn, you may need to consider servicing cost if the watch hasn't been serviced recently. I vote for the 5035. But then this is a Patek sub-forum!

1 May 2016, 02:30 AM	#8
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,214	I like both brands and in some comparisons I would select the ALS over PAtek but in this specific comparison I would take the Patek. I like the calendar functions and as someone already stated-- I think this particular ALS is a bit boring in its appearance.

1 May 2016, 03:41 AM	#9
ec00421 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NY Posts: 513	Pp between these two

1 May 2016, 07:39 AM	#13
el1125 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA Posts: 3,578	Patek....99% of the time..

23 March 2019, 11:49 AM	#15
jag32 Banned Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: DC Watch: PP/AP/BP/UN Posts: 1,015	The 5035 can be had for the cost of a new Calatrava. I love mine and would recommend it to anyone. The history alone is worth it.

23 March 2019, 12:14 PM	#16
jag32 Banned Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: DC Watch: PP/AP/BP/UN Posts: 1,015	Presenting the Patek Phillipe 5035J. Annual calendar complications? Check. Deployant clasp? Check. Average cost? Only about $19.5k... less than a Calatrava The best value in all of Patek world.

27 March 2019, 08:29 AM	#18
Tan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Canada Watch: PP 5320G Posts: 1,258	5035 definitely best value in the Patek world that you can buy pre-owned.

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