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timewarped80 · 14 February 2021, 11:10 PM

Any word on 2021 Calatravas?

QuelleHeureEstIl · 18 February 2021, 11:14 PM

My little finger tells me that we will have good surprises. :)

Will_L · 19 February 2021, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by QuelleHeureEstIl

My little finger tells me that we will have good surprises. :)

Littlefinger ??

azizu · 19 February 2021, 06:33 AM

2021 is widely ruomered to be the year of the calatravas
my guess is there might be steel options with soprty twist similar to the 6007 and 5212

QuelleHeureEstIl · 19 February 2021, 08:49 AM

The new 2021 lady watches (included the calatravas) are superbe. Hope the men will be pleased also. :)

ECLS18 · 24 February 2021, 09:50 AM

I am in the mkt. for a 5196j. I like everything about the watch but would love a display case back. Should I hold off if there are rumors of a new movement?

huydoan · 24 February 2021, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ECLS18

I am in the mkt. for a 5196j. I like everything about the watch but would love a display case back. Should I hold off if there are rumors of a new movement?

the rumour has been circulated for more than 3 years ...

Winzzz · 24 February 2021, 04:12 PM

Hope theres new calatrava for men this year

timewarped80 · 25 February 2021, 02:06 PM

I’m personally hoping for a modern interpretation of the 5196. Upsize to 39mm, transparent case back with power reserve in the rear. Please please PP, make this dream a reality!

QuelleHeureEstIl · 26 February 2021, 01:56 AM

I am a big fan of the Amagnetic serie like the 2509 or 3417.

But actually, my dream watch would be the child of a Nautilus and a Calatrava: a great integrated bracelet (with a Glidelock equivalent), classic sporty design Non-Genta (a la-VC-overseas), 70h power reserve.

timewarped80 · 1 April 2021, 03:23 AM

They have to release a new line of calatravas. There is literally nothing in the line up. I’m really excited to see what comes out. My perfect calatrava:
- 39mm
- manual
- sub-seconds
- exhibition caseback with power reserve indicator in the back

David001 · 1 April 2021, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kneedeep

Calatrava are to Patek these days what Cellini are to Rolex and what Code 11.59 are to AP....

I have no love for the Cellini or 11.59, but I don't know how you can say that about the Calatrava, it's by far the most authentic and beautiful of all the Patek range. I have a 5196 and I have a Nautilus, the 5196 is hands down the nicer watch.

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Originally Posted by ECLS18

I am in the mkt. for a 5196j. I like everything about the watch but would love a display case back. Should I hold off if there are rumors of a new movement?

They'd have to make it deeper to fit a display back and I think it would ruin the feel of it. The 5196 is amazingly slim and delicate, to make it thicker would be a crime.

imran16520 · 7 April 2021, 08:18 AM

A new Hobnail bezel Calatrava?

francoamerican · 7 April 2021, 09:16 AM

An article from the official Patek magazine said a new manual wind movement was being developed to be produced in the new facility as a way to attract younger buyers. The tricky thing is a cannot imagine a $20,000 patek at this point. It will be interesting to see how they juggle the interest in steel traditional watches without cannibalizing gold pieces.

To be fair they could just charge $25K for a steel manual wind and if it were executed even halfway decently they would likely sell very well.

They could also sell a "youthful" 25K PM watch, but it's going to be slightly incongruent.

llngoc · 7 April 2021, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by francoamerican

An article from the official Patek magazine said a new manual wind movement was being developed to be produced in the new facility as a way to attract younger buyers. The tricky thing is a cannot imagine a $20,000 patek at this point. It will be interesting to see how they juggle the interest in steel traditional watches without cannibalizing gold pieces.

To be fair they could just charge $25K for a steel manual wind and if it were executed even halfway decently they would likely sell very well.

They could also sell a "youthful" 25K PM watch, but it's going to be slightly incongruent.

Younger buyer != Less wealthy buyer

This is especially true in the Bay Area. A $100k youthful PM Calatrava may work here.

francoamerican · 7 April 2021, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by llngoc

Younger buyer != Less wealthy buyer

This is especially true in the Bay Area. A $100k youthful PM Calatrava may work here.

But generally it does, even here in the Bay Area.

timewarped80 · 7 April 2021, 10:34 PM

So no calatravas this year?

Jb1264 · 8 April 2021, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by timewarped80

So no calatravas this year?

It certainly looks like it, judging by today's announcement

timewarped80 · 8 April 2021, 03:17 AM

Fingers crossed for April 12

GB-man · 8 April 2021, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by timewarped80

Fingers crossed for April 12

Hoping for something reminiscent of the 5650A but 39-40mm. Closer to the 565 proportions.

imran16520 · 13 April 2021, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by imran16520

A new Hobnail bezel Calatrava?

vh2k · 13 April 2021, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by imran16520

Great guess!

nesnith · 13 April 2021, 04:05 AM

A new Calatrava has been released. Calatrava "Clous de Paris" with a hobnail bezel, and a new manual-wound movement (Caliber 30-255 PS) with 65 hours of power reserve. It comes in rose gold with an opaline dial (6119R), or white gold with a black dial (6119G).

Swaye · 13 April 2021, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nesnith

A new Calatrava has been released. Calatrava "Clous de Paris" with a hobnail bezel, and a new manual-wound movement (Caliber 30-255 PS) with 65 hours of power reserve. It comes in rose gold with an opaline dial (6119R), or white gold with a black dial (6119G).

And it is magnificent.

mrhanx · 9 May 2021, 12:25 PM

Hi guys, my first post here. Strapped on both 6119G and 5196R in the boutique earlier today, I still feel that 5196R's simpler dial is more pleasing visually and comfortable on the wrist. The only downside would be the lack of open case back. I don't find the smaller case on the 5196R to be an issue here on my 17cm wrist as it wears larger than 37mm. Here's the comparison shot.

vitalsigns · 9 May 2021, 11:45 PM

Agreed. The 5196R is the clear winner to my eyes. I don't prefer hobnail bezels, and the 6119s are otherwise too dressy, whereas the 5196s are more easily dressed up and down.

huydoan · 10 May 2021, 12:19 AM

i had a chance to try 6119g and is waiting for it. actually the design of hobnail bezel is really different from the previous generation thanks to the lugs. when I wear it outside under natural light, the 6119g stays really low key, unlike 6119r.

Johnnyhayward · 12 May 2021, 06:00 AM

I love my 6119g

agsstructures · 12 May 2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyhayward

I love my 6119g

Beautiful, love the casual straps

Mini2 · 13 May 2021, 03:21 AM

Loving the grey strap - suede?

19 February 2021, 06:33 AM	#34
azizu "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Saudi Arabia Watch: Patek 3700/11AJ Posts: 717	2021 is widely ruomered to be the year of the calatravas my guess is there might be steel options with soprty twist similar to the 6007 and 5212 __________________ Current Collection: PP 3700/11AJ, PP 5170G, PP 5320G, PP 5712/1A, APRO 15500, Rolex 116234, Rolex GMT Master2 BLNR, Omega SMP, Baume & Mercier M0A10280

7 April 2021, 08:18 AM	#43
imran16520 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: India Posts: 101	Maybe A new Hobnail bezel Calatrava?

14 February 2021, 11:10 PM	#31
timewarped80 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Posts: 401	Any word on 2021 Calatravas?

18 February 2021, 11:14 PM	#32
QuelleHeureEstIl Banned Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Gnèèève Posts: 595	My little finger tells me that we will have good surprises. :)

19 February 2021, 08:49 AM	#35
QuelleHeureEstIl Banned Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Gnèèève Posts: 595	The new 2021 lady watches (included the calatravas) are superbe. Hope the men will be pleased also. :)

24 February 2021, 09:50 AM	#36
ECLS18 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 58	I am in the mkt. for a 5196j. I like everything about the watch but would love a display case back. Should I hold off if there are rumors of a new movement?

24 February 2021, 04:12 PM	#38
Winzzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Indonesia Posts: 6	Hope theres new calatrava for men this year

25 February 2021, 02:06 PM	#39
timewarped80 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Posts: 401	I’m personally hoping for a modern interpretation of the 5196. Upsize to 39mm, transparent case back with power reserve in the rear. Please please PP, make this dream a reality!

26 February 2021, 01:56 AM	#40
QuelleHeureEstIl Banned Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Gnèèève Posts: 595	I am a big fan of the Amagnetic serie like the 2509 or 3417. But actually, my dream watch would be the child of a Nautilus and a Calatrava: a great integrated bracelet (with a Glidelock equivalent), classic sporty design Non-Genta (a la-VC-overseas), 70h power reserve.

1 April 2021, 03:23 AM	#41
timewarped80 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Posts: 401	They have to release a new line of calatravas. There is literally nothing in the line up. I’m really excited to see what comes out. My perfect calatrava: - 39mm - manual - sub-seconds - exhibition caseback with power reserve indicator in the back

7 April 2021, 09:16 AM	#44
francoamerican "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: bay area Posts: 571	An article from the official Patek magazine said a new manual wind movement was being developed to be produced in the new facility as a way to attract younger buyers. The tricky thing is a cannot imagine a $20,000 patek at this point. It will be interesting to see how they juggle the interest in steel traditional watches without cannibalizing gold pieces. To be fair they could just charge $25K for a steel manual wind and if it were executed even halfway decently they would likely sell very well. They could also sell a "youthful" 25K PM watch, but it's going to be slightly incongruent.

7 April 2021, 10:34 PM	#47
timewarped80 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Posts: 401	So no calatravas this year?

8 April 2021, 03:17 AM	#49
timewarped80 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Posts: 401	Fingers crossed for April 12

13 April 2021, 04:05 AM	#53
nesnith "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Here Posts: 9	A new Calatrava has been released. Calatrava "Clous de Paris" with a hobnail bezel, and a new manual-wound movement (Caliber 30-255 PS) with 65 hours of power reserve. It comes in rose gold with an opaline dial (6119R), or white gold with a black dial (6119G).

9 May 2021, 11:45 PM	#56
vitalsigns "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: USA Posts: 510	Agreed. The 5196R is the clear winner to my eyes. I don't prefer hobnail bezels, and the 6119s are otherwise too dressy, whereas the 5196s are more easily dressed up and down.

10 May 2021, 12:19 AM	#57
huydoan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: mike Location: sydney Watch: pp and only pp Posts: 257	i had a chance to try 6119g and is waiting for it. actually the design of hobnail bezel is really different from the previous generation thanks to the lugs. when I wear it outside under natural light, the 6119g stays really low key, unlike 6119r.

12 May 2021, 06:00 AM	#58
Johnnyhayward "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Newcastle/EDI Watch: Pepsi Posts: 123	I love my 6119g

13 May 2021, 03:21 AM	#60
Mini2 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Uk Posts: 1,493	Loving the grey strap - suede?

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