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6 March 2021, 01:19 AM | #1 |
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that time of the year when I need to renew my content insurance that also cover watches. I am currently with Aviva - which is relatively competitive and covers my 2 watches (Patek + Royal Oak)... Any news on the market ... any new good value competitor. Checked AssetSure - remains really price... TH... Anything new in the last year dedicated to watches and perhaps not extorsionate? Best Massi |
6 March 2021, 02:53 AM | #2 |
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Have you seen this?
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...bed/2017-09-07 Chances of being robbed very low, ditto burglary. Is insurance really worth it? |
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7 March 2021, 04:53 AM | #4 |
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I used John Lewis high net worth insurance through Covea for years with good premiums. Moved to Directline Select with over 25% drop in premium last year. Both beat Aviva on cover for 4 Pateks.
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7 March 2021, 10:11 AM | #5 |
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What kind of rates are you guys paying?
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11 March 2021, 04:40 PM | #6 |
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For a 60k worth of watches Aviva is 720...
Tried direct line and it's at 800. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk |
11 March 2021, 07:46 PM | #7 |
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I've got a policy with Chubb. They cover my cars, the Pateks (circa £300k), my wifes "stuff" and the house under a single policy. From a watch point of view, they provide international cover and there are no restrictions (like having to store them o/n in a safe etc.) It's a good policy.
@Patekular - I won't even pick up a watch without having got confirmation from a broker that I'm covered. The current Mayor of London has turned the city in seething hell hole like 1970's/early 80's New York, where perpetrators of street crime are marauding around the place with total impunity. (He's a disgrace). Watches are being deliberately targeted - the whole place has become moody. When you're insured and if someone waves a knife in front of your face, you can calmly take it off and hand it over because financially, it means nothing to you. Why wouldn't you do it? |
11 March 2021, 11:49 PM | #8 |
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I was in a similar position a couple of months ago. I used to have a standalone policy with TH but was untenable when adding another watch I ended up using a broker and now have a combined home/contents/jewellery policy with Confidas.
As above - no restrictions or endorsements other than providing copies of valuations every couple of years. |
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How much do you all pay per year. IME buying cover is the easy part, you only really know how good a policy is when you make a claim.
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I would need a similar level of cover to your own, can I ask how much you paid? I have safe/cctv/alarm etc but due to realities of wife and young family I'd much rather the policy wasn't reliant on any of the security measures (other than CCTV) being in use at the time of any 'event'. edit - looks like Chubb insure through brokers only. Can I ask which one you use? |
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My pollicy is linked to my value of the reinstatement of my primary house, one rather special car in particular (no, not a Murcielago!), the watches, my wife’s jewellery etc and our overall contents so it wouldn’t really tell you anything about your likely premium cost if I told you mine. Hope you don’t mind. Ben previously brokered a policy for me with Zurich Private Clients which was contents/watches only. That was expensive but had great coverage too, so do ask him about them too. |
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Do you guys know of a good valuer in london who will value my watches at market value, rather than retail value?
I’ll call Ben Stagg tomorrow. I’m not at the same league as you guys, but have £50 to £60k in watches (market value) I guess, and it would be awful to have this stolen :( |
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Don't let having insurance make you complacent, it won't replace your skull. I chose to cancel mine last year and make more sensible decisions about where I wear my watches. It's sad but I just don't fancy an attack, even if I was insured. |
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In over thirty years I've never been burgled and had a watch taken or damaged a watch beyond a small scratch. And now I take care where I wear them if I'm in a large city. In fact the only time I was robbed was on my insurance premiums I'm not arguing against taking insurance, I just made a personal decision to cancel mine. |
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David ...” In fact the only time I was robbed was on my insurance premiums ”
LOL I have come around to this way of thinking and have decided to’ self insure’ ie put away the insurance each year for the PP’s into a savings account. 1.5% of value PA for watches over £30k is pretty steep. UK premiums have sky rocketed as the insurers add on to one all a concealed penalty surcharge to cover payouts to those daft enough to buy houses on flood plains. The odds on a burglary are minuscule and street robbery even less. |
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Depends where you live and whether you ever take them out of the safe at all. I'm surprised by those who self insure. These things cost the same as cars! You can damage one just dropping on the floor or tripping over.. A good friend of mine self insures. He was on a moped and came off at low speed - his 5740 needed a new bracelet and a full repair - that was £26,000. As regards Muggings, I don't want a headache caused by a beating to be made far worse by realising that I've also lost £150,000 in the process. |
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Daft question- do you get your watches insured for the rrp or what it would cost to replace them on secondary market - if I lost or had 5712 stolen it would be near on impossible to get it from AD - I’m assuming it would be the rrp and I would need to get back in line to get a new one ?
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Unless you're exceptionally unlucky then those sorts of events might happen every decade or so and it would have cost him that to insure it over that same period. |
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I pay just under 0.5% on my collection, obviously can’t comment on what prices others have received and of course circumstances differ with regards to location and security. Some pieces are insured at list and some at market price depending on the likelihood of a replacement via my AD’s. Policy also allows for up to a 200% rise in value since the last appraisal/price increase which can be important in the current market.
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TH March quoted me well over £2k pa for a 5712, so over 10 years that's a lot of money. I can't see a 5740 being £500 pa, or less if we factor in inflation to reach £5k in ten years time
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