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Old 22 November 2017, 05:57 PM   #1
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1675 Seems legit. Serial shows?!

Hi guys. Thanks for letting me in.

I was looking at a 1675 on ebay:

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1971-...IAAOSwrzdZl1tq

What’s your take on this one?
Should we warn the seller not to display serial #

What bracelet would be correct for a 71 GMT?

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Old 23 November 2017, 08:20 AM   #2
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Its got a caliber 1570 movement
I "thought" the Model 1675 used the caliber 1575 with date and 24hour.

The pictured watch had date and GMT hand, but NO micro-stella screws so surely a 1570 movement.

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Old 23 November 2017, 09:23 AM   #3
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Its got a caliber 1570 movement
I "thought" the Model 1675 used the caliber 1575 with date and 24hour.

The pictured watch had date and GMT hand, but NO micro-stella screws so surely a 1570 movement.
No, it's a 1575. Very common to see 1570 bridges on them. They are the same movements except for date feature.
So, seeing as the 1675 has the date feature, you know it's a 1575.

Watch looks fine, albeit well worn and overpriced IMO.
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Old 23 November 2017, 09:31 AM   #4
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No, it's a 1575. Very common to see 1570 bridges on them. They are the same movements except for date feature.
So, seeing as the 1675 has the date feature, you know it's a 1575.

Watch looks fine, albeit well worn and overpriced IMO.
The movement has no micro-stella screws - does that not make it a 1570?

I read here (maybe TOOLS/Larry)
The 1570 was introduced in 1965 and has balance assembly rolex p/n 8106 with Breguet hs running at 19800 bph.
Cal 1575 was the same thing with date.
Cal 1575 GMT has date and 24h hand.
All are chronometer grade movements.
Many date and GMT movements are stamped 1570.


But I am sure the 1575 has micro-stella screws but the 1570 has not.

I agree 100% movement is genuine, but I am confused to that.

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Old 23 November 2017, 10:20 AM   #5
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The movement has no micro-stella screws - does that not make it a 1570?
Yes, it does. The balance wheel is in motion in the pic, blurring the screws.
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I am sure the 1575 has micro-stella screws but the 1570 has not.
Who told you that?
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Old 23 November 2017, 10:29 AM   #6
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Yes, it does. The balance wheel is in motion in the pic, blurring the screws.

Who told you that?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Role...g1SXP4cpmSFKM:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Role...8Bema_MsgB5lM:

I do NOT believe these are running, / hiding screws

NOR the photo of movement in OPs photo.
I looked very carefully, and although I fully agree its harder to detect, you usually get some "sway" of them

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Old 23 November 2017, 11:11 AM   #7
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I do NOT believe these are running, / hiding screws

NOR the photo of movement in OPs photo.
I looked very carefully, and although I fully agree its harder to detect, you usually get some "sway" of them
OK then, if what you say is true, please post a picture of a Rolex 1570 balance (P/N 8106) with no screws.

In the meantime, I'll let you in on a little secret: If you can't see the interior spokes of the balance wheel in sharp focus, that means it was in motion when the pic was taken.
Conversely, when you see a pic of a stationary balance wheel, it doesn't necessarily mean it was stopped when the pic was taken (motion can be stopped and in sharp focus with a fast enough exposure/shutter speed).
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Old 23 November 2017, 11:25 AM   #8
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OK then, if what you say is true, please post a picture of a Rolex 1570 balance (P/N 8106) with no screws.

In the meantime, I'll let you in on a little secret: If you can't see the interior spokes of the balance wheel in sharp focus, that means it was in motion when the pic was taken.
Conversely, when you see a pic of a stationary balance wheel, it doesn't necessarily mean it was stopped when the pic was taken (motion can be stopped and in sharp focus with a fast enough exposure/shutter speed).
Hi Eric
I thought I had?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Role...g1SXP4cpmSFKM:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Role...8Bema_MsgB5lM:

But I take your word for it.
Thanks as always your input
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Old 23 November 2017, 04:44 PM   #9
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I thought I had?
Nope...and I meant pics of the balance by itself/stationary, to remove all doubt.

Here you go:

https://www.google.com/search?&tbm=i...olex+1570-8106
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Old 24 November 2017, 01:47 AM   #10
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Nope...and I meant pics of the balance by itself/stationary, to remove all doubt.

Here you go:

https://www.google.com/search?&tbm=i...olex+1570-8106
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