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Old 1 June 2023, 03:06 AM   #31
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Same here, fully biased:

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Plus, the Lange 1 WT is, in my opinion, somewhat illogical as the date is linked to the home time, not the local time.
To be fair, there is at least a date. The PP does not.
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Old 1 June 2023, 03:19 AM   #32
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They are very different watches, both are fantastic, but you can hardly compare them to each other. The Lange may well be the more complex watch overall, as it displays the second time in a city-adjustable subdial. It’s also a much larger watch. On the backside, it has an opulently decorated gorgeous movement.

The Patek on the other hand is a much smaller, more formal and elegant watch, an emblem of the brand. I especially like the older 5130s that still have the Geneva seal. Those are some of the most underrated Pateks around, and to be honest, probably my next purchase. Visually, the caseback isn’t much to look at though, as is the case with many Pateks that build atop the simple automatics.
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Old 1 June 2023, 03:20 AM   #33
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Just so we got both sides properly represented
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Old 1 June 2023, 02:08 PM   #34
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One thing I like about Lange is they have these limited runs that if you don't grab, it's gone. Example is the referenzuhr. So unique, classic, and special. They made a few, the ln *poof* its gone.
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Old 1 June 2023, 11:25 PM   #35
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I looked very hard at both. Ultimately could not get past the manual wind on the ALS. Ended up with the 5230G and love it, particularly as a second or third watch. It is one of the “signature” PP complications to me given the history.


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Old 4 June 2023, 12:37 AM   #36
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This has all been great! Picked up the 5110 for a great price.
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Old 4 June 2023, 02:14 AM   #37
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Nice work. You're going to love it.
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Old 4 June 2023, 02:39 AM   #38
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This has all been great! Picked up the 5110 for a great price.
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Old 4 June 2023, 10:38 AM   #39
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I have no bias at all but I’d pick the 5131R.
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Old 5 June 2023, 02:11 AM   #40
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Old 5 June 2023, 06:04 AM   #41
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I have no bias at all but I’d pick the 5131R.
5131R is definitely great looking watch and a nice safe queen
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Old 5 June 2023, 06:59 AM   #42
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5131R is definitely great looking watch and a nice safe queen
How did you know? I wore mine once when I got it and it has been in the bank ever since. I did get a blue strap for it though.

I’m never selling it, it’s getting sold and going into my endowment when I croak.
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How did you know? I wore mine once when I got it and it has been in the bank ever since. I did get a blue strap for it though.

I’m never selling it, it’s getting sold and going into my endowment when I croak.
I wore mine once when I received it from my AD and it has been in the bank safe since, so a very common scenario
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Old 9 June 2023, 01:25 AM   #44
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PP does the best world timers, hands down. I was set to get a 5230G before it was discontinued, so patiently awaiting the next (non-enamel) iteration.
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Just so we got both sides properly represented
Just so beautiful. ALS just gets it right.

If I were in the market for a world timer/dual timer, I would pick the Patek if money were not a limiting factor. I think the execution is slightly better if not busier. Having no date is a bummer though.

But the Time Zone is a relative "steal" if bought used, and the date and dual time displays are very useful to me. So if money and value are important, the ALS is the better option.
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