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fossil · 7 March 2012, 01:55 AM

After 27 years wearing my SS DJ, I innocently wandered into the only Rolex AD here in Alaska on Valentine's Day to purchase some trinkets for my wife and two daughters. Checked out the watches while I was there and, lo' and behold, the Subs looked really nice. Tried on a 116610LN and it looked pretty good. IT got me thinking about Started surfing the net and found TRF almost immediately, joined on Feb 20, and began reading everything. Saw the 10460M COSC and it sang to me (AD here has no 14060M in house). Read some more and saw lots of pics, and as a result the AD will have a 10460M her in Anchorage on Wednesday, March 7, for a direct comparison. At present I am leaning towards the No Date but the AD is really pushing the Sub C improvements as a big selling point - esp bracelet and bezel. I can live with those, but the case is another matter; not a deal breaker but it is a modification that The new Sub simply looks more blocky and chunky to me, but I certainly could live with it very easily once it is on the wrist and away from the store. We shall see... but with one further complication. It's March 7 in Basel very soon and we will all finally know what, if any, changes there will be to the Submariners in 2012 (I am betting on no change). The timing could not have been more perfect for me in decisioning this watch so soon after beginning the process. It will be either the Sub ND, Sub C, or perhaps whatever newly modified Sub might be offered this year. A ceramic ND with an updated bracelet would certainly be worth consideration, but I think these mods would also involve the new case and would make the choice that much more interesting. Regardless, tomorrow is the day. This has been a nice ride and I have enjoyed every minute I've spent learning about these watches on TRF. It is nice to be here.

Dan Pierce · 7 March 2012, 02:11 AM

Knowledge is power. Great to have you here, Dave!
dP

mjclark32 · 7 March 2012, 02:19 AM

Good luck tomorrow! Welcome to TRF

A.J.R. · 7 March 2012, 02:20 AM

Welcome, good luck with your decision.

kilyung · 7 March 2012, 02:32 AM

Good luck! Just keep in mind that Basel releases aren't usually available until the fall.

Watch ME! · 7 March 2012, 04:04 AM

Welcome to the forum! And ANY sub is a great watch to have! I just bought the 116610LN and I love it. I thought I wouldn't like the "bulkiness" to it either but really, pictures make it look so much larger than it actually is in person.

Good luck hunting and let us know how it all turns out!!

1675-David · 7 March 2012, 04:06 AM

welcome aboard!

FX44 · 7 March 2012, 04:23 AM

Welcome, good luck in choosing. They are all great models.

mtrunner · 7 March 2012, 04:26 AM

Sounds like you have had a lot of fun educating yourself. This is just the beginning. I fyou stick around I am guessing this will not be your last purchase.

Time2time · 7 March 2012, 05:10 AM

Welcome to TRF!!

Good luck with your decision.
I must say you won't be dissapointed with the Sub-C.
Looks great and feels great on the wrist.

dddrees · 7 March 2012, 05:14 AM

Welcome to TRF.

Sounds like you will shortly have all the info needed to make the right choice.

Good luck with your decision.

gwalker · 7 March 2012, 06:26 AM

Good luck. I seriously doubt there will be any changes of the Sub C in the next 5-10 years. I think they might update the ND Sub soon. It is one of if not the most outdated watch in the line up. They are both great watches but watches with no dates are deal breakers for me.

snaggle · 7 March 2012, 07:11 AM

Welcome to the TRF. Its a good idea to wait for Basel and see what they reveal. If they dont reveal an updated ND sub, I would personally recommend going for the Sub-C, just as the AD mentioned, its got many more advantages, glidelock, ceramic bezel, case, and of course, a date.

However, many people will say to go for the ND, but my vote is definitely for the Sub-C.

dmauldin · 7 March 2012, 12:40 PM

I vote SubC too! I thought it was too big at first sight, but it grew quickly on me.

Genevapics · 7 March 2012, 12:46 PM

Welcome to TRF. I own a Submariner 14060M non-COSC. LOVE IT!!! Great watch that keeps +2 sec/day while never leaving my wrist. I too share your sentiments regarding the looks of the new SubC when compared to the older Subs. That said, the SubC is a wonderful watch and needs to be compared side-by-side to the 14060M.

Good luck in your journey towards a new Submariner.

MortgageGuy · 7 March 2012, 02:01 PM

Welcome Dave! Both beauties IMHO. Good luck with your decision

z32turbo · 7 March 2012, 02:04 PM

Welcome and I hope you have a really great day tomorrow!!

Good luck!!

paverman · 7 March 2012, 02:09 PM

Welcome to TRF. You'll find a wealth of knowledge here.

Linzjnr · 7 March 2012, 02:14 PM

Welcome Dave and good luck with your decision, you can't go wrong

sub2004 · 7 March 2012, 02:34 PM

Any steel sub is great.

If they change the non date 14060 tomorrow, then i think i may get the current one. Destined be a last of the classic!

All the very best

fossil · 8 March 2012, 01:53 AM

Now what? I guess I'm heading out to the AD later this morning to check out the 14060M in person and decide between it and the new 114060. I'm thinking go old school. The Sub C ND does look nice though.

Johny · 8 March 2012, 02:00 AM

welcome dave.

Cru Jones · 8 March 2012, 02:10 AM

great stuff, welcome!

everything you said makes sense, except the bit about "innocently wandering into your AD"....we know better than that!

7 March 2012, 01:55 AM	#1
fossil "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Dave Location: Anchorage, Alaska Watch: 14060M, DJ, Speedy Posts: 10	Perfect Storm After 27 years wearing my SS DJ, I innocently wandered into the only Rolex AD here in Alaska on Valentine's Day to purchase some trinkets for my wife and two daughters. Checked out the watches while I was there and, lo' and behold, the Subs looked really nice. Tried on a 116610LN and it looked pretty good. IT got me thinking about Started surfing the net and found TRF almost immediately, joined on Feb 20, and began reading everything. Saw the 10460M COSC and it sang to me (AD here has no 14060M in house). Read some more and saw lots of pics, and as a result the AD will have a 10460M her in Anchorage on Wednesday, March 7, for a direct comparison. At present I am leaning towards the No Date but the AD is really pushing the Sub C improvements as a big selling point - esp bracelet and bezel. I can live with those, but the case is another matter; not a deal breaker but it is a modification that The new Sub simply looks more blocky and chunky to me, but I certainly could live with it very easily once it is on the wrist and away from the store. We shall see... but with one further complication. It's March 7 in Basel very soon and we will all finally know what, if any, changes there will be to the Submariners in 2012 (I am betting on no change). The timing could not have been more perfect for me in decisioning this watch so soon after beginning the process. It will be either the Sub ND, Sub C, or perhaps whatever newly modified Sub might be offered this year. A ceramic ND with an updated bracelet would certainly be worth consideration, but I think these mods would also involve the new case and would make the choice that much more interesting. Regardless, tomorrow is the day. This has been a nice ride and I have enjoyed every minute I've spent learning about these watches on TRF. It is nice to be here.

7 March 2012, 02:11 AM	#2
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 35,733	Knowledge is power. Great to have you here, Dave! dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

7 March 2012, 02:19 AM	#3
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Good luck tomorrow! Welcome to TRF __________________

7 March 2012, 02:20 AM	#4
A.J.R. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: AJ Location: Oregon Watch: SUBC, DJII Posts: 1,827	Welcome, good luck with your decision. __________________

7 March 2012, 04:04 AM	#6
Watch ME! "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: USA Watch: 116610LN Posts: 191	Welcome to the forum! And ANY sub is a great watch to have! I just bought the 116610LN and I love it. I thought I wouldn't like the "bulkiness" to it either but really, pictures make it look so much larger than it actually is in person. Good luck hunting and let us know how it all turns out!! __________________ 116610LN

7 March 2012, 02:32 AM	#5
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	Good luck! Just keep in mind that Basel releases aren't usually available until the fall.

7 March 2012, 04:06 AM	#7
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,014	welcome aboard!

7 March 2012, 04:23 AM	#8
FX44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: John Location: Charlotte, NC Watch: Submariner 114060 Posts: 518	Welcome, good luck in choosing. They are all great models. __________________ Submariner 114060

7 March 2012, 04:26 AM	#9
mtrunner 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Gary Location: Bozeman, MT Watch: 126508 Paul Newman Posts: 7,825	Sounds like you have had a lot of fun educating yourself. This is just the beginning. I fyou stick around I am guessing this will not be your last purchase.

7 March 2012, 05:10 AM	#10
Time2time Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: U.K Watch: Milgauss GV, Sub-C Posts: 2,178	Welcome to TRF!! Good luck with your decision. I must say you won't be dissapointed with the Sub-C. Looks great and feels great on the wrist.

7 March 2012, 05:14 AM	#11
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	Welcome to TRF. Sounds like you will shortly have all the info needed to make the right choice. Good luck with your decision. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

7 March 2012, 06:26 AM	#12
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	Good luck. I seriously doubt there will be any changes of the Sub C in the next 5-10 years. I think they might update the ND Sub soon. It is one of if not the most outdated watch in the line up. They are both great watches but watches with no dates are deal breakers for me.

7 March 2012, 07:11 AM	#13
snaggle Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Paul Location: Florida Watch: SubC, DJII, Omegas Posts: 768	Welcome to the TRF. Its a good idea to wait for Basel and see what they reveal. If they dont reveal an updated ND sub, I would personally recommend going for the Sub-C, just as the AD mentioned, its got many more advantages, glidelock, ceramic bezel, case, and of course, a date. However, many people will say to go for the ND, but my vote is definitely for the Sub-C.

7 March 2012, 12:40 PM	#14
dmauldin "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Georgetown, TX Watch: 116610LN & 16030 Posts: 162	I vote SubC too! I thought it was too big at first sight, but it grew quickly on me.

7 March 2012, 12:46 PM	#15
Genevapics "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Andre Location: Delaware Watch: Submariner Posts: 296	Welcome to TRF. I own a Submariner 14060M non-COSC. LOVE IT!!! Great watch that keeps +2 sec/day while never leaving my wrist. I too share your sentiments regarding the looks of the new SubC when compared to the older Subs. That said, the SubC is a wonderful watch and needs to be compared side-by-side to the 14060M. Good luck in your journey towards a new Submariner. __________________ *–Andre´*

7 March 2012, 02:01 PM	#16
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	Welcome Dave! Both beauties IMHO. Good luck with your decision __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

7 March 2012, 02:04 PM	#17
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	Welcome and I hope you have a really great day tomorrow!! Good luck!! __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

7 March 2012, 02:09 PM	#18
paverman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Ken Location: Illinois Watch: Too many Posts: 2,869	Welcome to TRF. You'll find a wealth of knowledge here.

7 March 2012, 02:14 PM	#19
Linzjnr 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Linz Location: Perth WA Watch: My bank balance! Posts: 1,366	Welcome Dave and good luck with your decision, you can't go wrong __________________ SS Submariner Date 16610 - SS Polar Explorer GMT 216570

7 March 2012, 02:34 PM	#20
sub2004 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: South Pacific Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 643	Any steel sub is great. If they change the non date 14060 tomorrow, then i think i may get the current one. Destined be a last of the classic! All the very best

8 March 2012, 01:53 AM	#21
fossil "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Dave Location: Anchorage, Alaska Watch: 14060M, DJ, Speedy Posts: 10	Now what? I guess I'm heading out to the AD later this morning to check out the 14060M in person and decide between it and the new 114060. I'm thinking go old school. The Sub C ND does look nice though.

8 March 2012, 02:00 AM	#22
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	welcome dave. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

8 March 2012, 02:10 AM	#23
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,499	great stuff, welcome! everything you said makes sense, except the bit about "innocently wandering into your AD"....we know better than that!

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