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I agree. Although I would even entertain the idea of reporting it to PP, even if it would not be against any specific rules..just seems wrong.
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I think the market for grand complications and complications is steady, that's a niche for a connoisseur that can afford to to buy them. The Sport watches in the other hand is a broader market, where its not only more accessible, relatively speaking (lets say 40k and below) but also has more mass appeal. So the demand on this bracket (sport watches) is always gonna be high, so it makes sense for PP to tweak their supply (not good for the AD), win win for PP.
I think in the long run PP will adjust the supply to go back to normal, because they need the AD's. Unless this is just a way to get rid of AD's from PP........ don't we love to speculate when we really have no basis to say things
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Controlling PP sports supply : Yes I believe PP do so
Buy other PP model to get a 5711 : No I don't think PP allow that, is the AD trying to rip us |
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I don't think PP is stupid though, they must know ADs do that, they just turn a blind eye. But I don't really blame them since ADs makes money for them, they are on the same ship.
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there are slightly more subtle ways of doing this. recently i bought a rolex daydate 40 from an AD (at a good discount of course) and after the acquisition i was offered to buy various (currently almost unavailable) rolex sports models (declined) and a swift progress on the steel daytona waiting list (accepted).
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I guess all this waiting game and bundling game make the brand more exclusive and appealing
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You can if you bring a million dollars to order other stuff
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No doubt grey can get the watch faster but sometimes chunking out the amount of money for a Patek we want to sit inside the AD or Boutique and sip some Patek coffee and enjoy the moment.
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Like I said above, one AD wanted me to to buy two Pateks in order for me to get 5131P. A diamond studded Nautilus and another slow selling Patek. I’m not a frequent buyer of Pateks, so I have next to zero relationships with AD, but when I do want to buy a Patek, often times it’s a hard to get piece like 5970P and this time, 5131P. |
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Of course PP also raised their prices in last 10 years to combat that 2nd hand prices were higher than retail. They certainly keep production of SS sport watches low to further create demand. Certainly Hermes is known to use the same strategy with the Birkin.
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