Some Unusual Vintage Rolex

[Old Expat Beast]

I saw these interesting pieces while browsing with some friends yesterday. A pretty rare Explorer 6298 with the unusual self-winding/perpetual combo on the dial, an Oyster with six coronets and an Explorer Date 5700. Any thoughts on the cleanliness of the dials? I’d say cleaned up but not redone.

[speedolex]

The 6 coronet Precision is to die for. Did you buy it?

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by speedolex

The 6 coronet Precision is to die for. Did you buy it?

No, I learned never to do impulse buys in HK, but I might go back and take another look. Also saw a nice barked DD with birch dial that got me thinking.

[Tri-Tip]

Originally Posted by speedolex

The 6 coronet Precision is to die for. Did you buy it?

I agree. Was that a dial offered by Rolex???

[speedolex]

Originally Posted by Tri-Tip

I agree. Was that a dial offered by Rolex???

In all these years, never seen one before in the flesh or in a publication.

[offrdmania]

Ive seen stars on a dial but never more than 1 coronet

[Paul]

A 6 coronet dial popped up on one if the forums just a few months back (VRF ? ). As I recall, there were no great cries of dissention - and overall the dial characteristics seem reminiscent of the era.

That said, the fonts and text alignment on this one today seem a little clumsy ... perhaps simply an effect of the textured dial.

Someone more clever than me may know if a 6298 ( circa 1953 perhaps) and a "SWISS MADE" dial are a happy union. I'd have thought simply "SWISS" way back then

Certainly a handsome beast though

[andromeda160]

im not an impulsive purchaser myself but I imagine I'd have a hard time containing myself in HK. Lovely pieces.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

No, I learned never to do impulse buys in HK, but I might go back and take another look. Also saw a nice barked DD with birch dial that got me thinking.

Do you mind sharing the price on this one?

[Old Expat Beast]

The 6 coronet? It wasn't priced in the window as I recall. Only some were.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

The 6 coronet? It wasn't priced in the window as I recall. Only some were.

No, the DD.

[GLADIATOR]

Personally, and for a few reasons, I do not believe the dial with coronets to be an original Rolex dial.
But that is just my opinion - just too many things wrong with it.
adam 2

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by MonBK

No, the DD.

$11,600 in us$.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

$11,600 in us$.

Thanks.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Thanks.

Does that sound fair?

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Personally, and for a few reasons, I do not believe the dial with coronets to be an original Rolex dial.
But that is just my opinion - just too many things wrong with it.
adam 2

What reasons?

[crowncollection]

6928 looks ok, as for the 6 coronet dial it's got to be rare I would take the risk if the price was not ridiculous, got be rarer than star markers dials and as we all know about them and those are highly collectable.. I am on the fence as for the Swiss made at the bottom being correct, it has been seen before on other dials of the era on rare very occasion, quite Interesting

Btw Adam that bark day date with birch dial sounds nice.



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[swatty]

Some nice watches in your pics Adam

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

What reasons?

1) Alignment of some of the coronets eg 8 o clock
2) Shape of coronet at 6
3) Coronets not uniform in shape and size
4) Printing of "precision"
5) SWISS MADE not centered, but that could be angle of photo.
6) Seconds hand also looks a "tad" short"??

That is just my "personal" take on it and I do own a lot of vintage Rolex's from 1929 to 1950s

Regards
Adam 2

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Does that sound fair?

Hard to say, it all depends on model and condition.

On top of my head, (without knowing anything about it) it sounds a couple of thousand off.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Hard to say, it all depends on model and condition.

On top of my head, (without knowing anything about it) it sounds a couple of thousand off.

I should've taken a photo. I'm not really a PM guy, but I could be tempted to trade in a couple of SS models I never wear with some cash for a serious piece like this.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I should've taken a photo. I'm not really a PM guy, but I could be tempted to trade in a couple of SS models I never wear with some cash for a serious piece like this.

Take a couple of pics if you go back, would love to see it.

[Dr.Smellody]

Thanks for sharing these Adam. I'm blown away by the six coronet. Wow!!!

[seattleal]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Does that sound fair?

Hi Adam -for reference, I bought a very nice Wide Boy 1807 YG DD two years ago for 6.5 K; maybe others can tell you what the birch dial adds, but 11.6 K sounds high to me.

Happy to send pics of the DD if that would help you.

[southtexas]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I should've taken a photo. I'm not really a PM guy, but I could be tempted to trade in a couple of SS models I never wear with some cash for a serious piece like this.

The birch dials come up fairly regularly in minty condition for $1500, sometimes less (in fact, last one I saw on eBay went for $900).

Anyone have opinions on that date dial?


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[Haywood_Milton]

Multiple coronet dials certainly exist, I believe.

HM

[Old Expat Beast]

Thanks for the input everyone. I probably won't go for the DD.

As for the six coronet dial, I'm inclined to believe it is genuine and original. As rare as it is, it's only an Oyster manual, and would have been one of the cheapest in the range at the time, so some minor dial imperfections on an unusual dial might be expected.

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Thanks for the input everyone. I probably won't go for the DD.

As for the six coronet dial, I'm inclined to believe it is genuine and original. As rare as it is, it's only an Oyster manual, and would have been one of the cheapest in the range at the time, so some minor dial imperfections on an unusual dial might be expected.

I would go for it with that 6 coronet dial, it's always nice to have something others can't buy even if they have the money and turn up at a collectors event with a piece that will create great conversation

btw you need a day date Adam lol

[brandrea]

Wow, so great to eye such rare pieces
That explorer date is NICE

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

I would go for it with that 6 coronet dial, it's always nice to have something others can't buy even if they have the money and turn up at a collectors event with a piece that will create great conversation

btw you need a day date Adam lol

Thanks David, you're probably right on both counts, I think.