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kalo925 · 8 January 2018, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Great outcome. Now destroy that pos (unless instructed otherwise by PayPal/eBay.

Usually one needs to send the item back before refund.

watchwatcher · 8 January 2018, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

Paypal refunded me in full this morning! And, yes, I believe I will order a new BLNR from Frank Adams in Albany!

Awesome!

Flyinghunter · 8 January 2018, 10:55 AM

Great news!! Happy to hear about the positive outcome.

Onikage · 8 January 2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Great outcome. Now destroy that pos (unless instructed otherwise by PayPal/eBay.

x2 Wear it like the worthless pile it is when working on the house, garden or the car. Though I detest fakes it is now in your custody never to be used to rob someone again. It would make a humorous beater being two tone and serve as a reminder of the time you almost paid good money for it.

GFONG · 8 January 2018, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

Paypal refunded me in full this morning! And, yes, I believe I will order a new BLNR from Frank Adams in Albany!

Congrats! Why getting the BLNR instead of the 116613LB?

LuminousMaximus · 8 January 2018, 12:38 PM

so, if you want a good deal buy from one of our trusted sellers...

After you find the watch you want, then ask us if the Seller is OK...

Look >here<

Andad · 8 January 2018, 01:01 PM

Great outcome.

hoppes-no9 · 8 January 2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by masterdinh

.... If in Texas I am happy to pay him a visit for you.

Good grief.

Old Geezer · 8 January 2018, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

Paypal refunded me in full this morning! And, yes, I believe I will order a new BLNR from Frank Adams in Albany!

Excellent ! Very happy for you.
If you don’t send the fake back, don’t destroy it outright. There may be some scrap value in the gold if any part of the watch was actually real. It sounds like you may have gotten a modified / Frankenstein watch. If that is the case, some of the legitimate parts have value like a bracelet.

slillestrand · 8 January 2018, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

Update:

The seller has not responded to the paypal claim. But Paypal has told me that if he does not respond by Jan 6, they will refund me.

BTW, I appreciate everyone's input, even the hard ones. I certainly did not do enough due diligence, and I feel like this incident has taught me the very valuable lesson to be much more careful. If I get my money back, I will count myself fortunate, and I certainly won't make the same mistake again!

I will update again once I hear from Paypal.

Call the credit card company and stop payment at their level. That is what I do. As long as the paypal payment hit your credit card at the time of sale, the credit card company will put the money back on your account and make paypal wait.

Scott

RollieRoll · 8 January 2018, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by slillestrand

Call the credit card company and stop payment at their level. That is what I do. As long as the paypal payment hit your credit card at the time of sale, the credit card company will put the money back on your account and make paypal wait.

Scott

Resolution has been reached.

seadweller43 · 8 January 2018, 05:52 PM

congratulations! and nice work from paypal!

seadweller43 · 8 January 2018, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Geezer

Excellent ! Very happy for you.
If you don’t send the fake back, don’t destroy it outright. There may be some scrap value in the gold if any part of the watch was actually real. It sounds like you may have gotten a modified / Frankenstein watch. If that is the case, some of the legitimate parts have value like a bracelet.

just dont send it back to the seller. if the fake watch does
have some value, the seller desever this further punishment
on top of a refund.

Onikage · 8 January 2018, 06:50 PM

No chance of anything from a real TTSubC finding its way into that thing. They're made to look ok for about a week.

pilotjim · 9 January 2018, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GFONG

Congrats! Why getting the BLNR instead of the 116613LB?

To be honest, I'm not sure I can answer that. The look of the two tone just appealed to me when I first started looking and considering. But since then, that black and blue just really struck me! And I think the GMT may be more to my liking than the sub.....just maybe :)

pilotjim · 9 January 2018, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kalo925

Usually one needs to send the item back before refund.

Although I didn't get anything in writing on this, the one paypal rep I spoke to on the phone told me that if the seller did not respond to the claim in the allotted time (which he didn't) I would not be required to return the item.

The movement was an obvious fake, but the outside of the watch was sufficiently constructed to give even the AD pause. I know I was scammed, but I felt a bit better when the Rolex dealer wasn't sure of it's authenticity at first. I will keep it as a learning tool.

pilotjim · 9 January 2018, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LuminousMaximus

so, if you want a good deal buy from one of our trusted sellers...

After you find the watch you want, then ask us if the Seller is OK...

Look >here<

I've been mulling this over. I feel very grateful to the AD, but I also feel very grateful to this forum. I'll have to think it over.

m j b · 9 January 2018, 03:03 AM

Congrats Jim, glad it all worked out, financially, although I'm sure you had some sleepless nights.

dysondiver · 9 January 2018, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

Paypal refunded me in full this morning! And, yes, I believe I will order a new BLNR from Frank Adams in Albany!

great news

HK Islandboy · 9 January 2018, 02:54 PM

Delighted to hear about this outcome. Quite a saga!

Reinhard in SA · 9 January 2018, 03:28 PM

I got burned on Chrono24 and went through the same process with Paypal. It took a bit of time, but I was refunded by them. It was stressful going through the process, so I can sympathize with what you are going through. Very happy for your positive resolution

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Flyinghunter "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: South Posts: 342	Great news!! Happy to hear about the positive outcome.

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seadweller43 Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: hong kong Posts: 214	congratulations! and nice work from paypal!

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HK Islandboy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Hong Kong Watch: AP Posts: 3,825	Delighted to hear about this outcome. Quite a saga!

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Reinhard in SA "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: South Africa Posts: 802	I got burned on Chrono24 and went through the same process with Paypal. It took a bit of time, but I was refunded by them. It was stressful going through the process, so I can sympathize with what you are going through. Very happy for your positive resolution

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