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Old 15 January 2018, 05:30 AM   #1
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Authentic 16233?

Hello everyone,

Happy Sunday and New Year.

I have this watch in my possession, I am 100 sure it's fake, but wanted to get some more informed positions.

Watch weighs 117g, which is the proper weigh according to the chart I located. The biggest concern for me is the bracelet, the gaps where the band attaches to the case.










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Old 15 January 2018, 05:48 AM   #2
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It’s a fake!!!


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Old 15 January 2018, 05:50 AM   #3
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Old 15 January 2018, 05:50 AM   #4
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We don't talk about what distinguishes a fake piece, we don't want people to learn faking techniques.
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Old 15 January 2018, 05:52 AM   #5
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You are 100% correct, it is a fake.
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Old 15 January 2018, 05:53 AM   #6
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You are 100% correct, it is a fake.
Do you see the pics Larry?
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Old 15 January 2018, 05:54 AM   #7
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Thank you, everyone.
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Old 15 January 2018, 05:58 AM   #8
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Do you see the pics Larry?
Yes, they are all photobucket images.
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Old 15 January 2018, 08:18 AM   #9
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Old 15 January 2018, 07:25 PM   #10
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We don't talk about what distinguishes a fake piece, we don't want people to learn faking techniques.
Initially when I heard about this "policy", I thought it was pretty smart. But the more think about it, it really doesn't seem to make sense.

Do you think that the person/people who spend the money time and effort in creating the tools and equipment needed to make counterfeits (however unconvincing thry might be), don't have access to real pieces to compare their work?

They probably take apart Daytonas and GMT's in order to try and make each individual piece as close as possible. Obviously they are unable to make a perfect copy thus we have people like on this forum who are able to pick them out of a line-up. They probably know better than the people here where their copies are lacking.

I think that sharing how to spot fakes and getting thst info out there for more and more people to see will eventually save people heartache and grief.

Just my opinion.

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Old 15 January 2018, 09:45 PM   #11
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The high end fakes are getting better every year, as the makers learn from their previous mistakes

Where do you think they get this information from ? – from the people buying them thinking they’re real ? – or from forums like this ?
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Old 15 January 2018, 09:48 PM   #12
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The high end fakes are getting better every year, as the makers learn from their previous mistakes

Where do you think they get this information from ? – from the people buying them thinking they’re real ? – or from forums like this ?
You're kidding, right?
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Old 15 January 2018, 10:27 PM   #13
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The high end fakes are getting better every year, as the makers learn from their previous mistakes

Where do you think they get this information from ? – from the people buying them thinking they’re real ? – or from forums like this ?
I think they go buy a real one, break out their engineering tool kit, and figure out how to copy it as cheaply as possible.

Only a rank amateur would come to a forum seeking insight. Someone with the machine tools to make a watch will not waste time and money scanning the opinions of a bunch of mooks on a watch forum.
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Old 15 January 2018, 10:41 PM   #14
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One of those “good” replicas probably from Jakarta
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Old 15 January 2018, 11:40 PM   #15
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I think they go buy a real one, break out their engineering tool kit, and figure out how to copy it as cheaply as possible.

Only a rank amateur would come to a forum seeking insight. Someone with the machine tools to make a watch will not waste time and money scanning the opinions of a bunch of mooks on a watch forum.
I agree to a point, but like anything, it often takes a fresh pair of eyes to point out the flaws.

The guys making the watch probably think it's a perfect replica, right up until someone points out the flaws......which are then rectified in the next model.

If making a perfect replica first time was possible, we wouldn't see all these half assed fakes. Giving fakers clues on what corrections to make in their next model doesn't help us get rid of these things.
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Old 15 January 2018, 11:54 PM   #16
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Manufacturers "may" check feedback on sites like these, but my concern is more the likes of "eBay con artists" who are attempting to sell fakes.
They surely come here to "test" if there pieces can be passed off, and by telling them the "give-a-way" points, they then use photos hiding that "point"

Additionally manufacturers are changing things to now pass our keen eyes like black balance wheel and hand stack.

Hence I dont state what concerns me
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Old 16 January 2018, 12:51 AM   #17
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Old 16 January 2018, 03:09 AM   #18
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my concern is more the likes of "eBay con artists" who are attempting to sell fakes.
They surely come here to "test" if there pieces can be passed off, and by telling them the "give-a-way" points, they then use photos hiding that "point"
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This makes the most sense to me. I guess there is a broad spectrum of thiefs out there.

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