Day-date II vs. Day-date 40

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

I've had both and the 40 is the one that's stuck around. To be fair, though, it was really more of a bracelet fitment issue, and not the proportions of the watch.

Having said all that, my grail, the one that got away, is the WG DDII w/blue wave dial. Sigh...

Ahhh, the wave dial ... I love that watch

[Lex_Ordo]

I have big wrists. I wear nothing smaller than a 40mm case. I went with a DJII, because of the oyster bracelet and 41mm case size. I also have a BLNR Ceramic, and a new reference Air-King. I have the wrists to make big watches look good.

I am saving, and fortunately I am not loving the dial selection available as of late, however one year, a dial may pop that requires me to pull the trigger. Obviously DD40 is what is available now, but what if a second hand DD II comes into the fray?

Aside from my taste in Big watches, what are some of the other reasons making the DD40, a more or less appealing watch over the DDII to folks?

Referring to the ceramic link pins. Rolex is not using PM screws/ pins on the new DD40s? Is this true?

Besides the obvious 3255 calibre movement enhancements, what are other changes between the DDII and DD40?
Look I get it, Rolex discontinued both the DJ II and DD II for a reason, but other than the case size and slight proportion adjustments, what really is different?

Just trying to educate myself to make the best decision.

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by Lex_Ordo

Rolex is not using PM screws/ pins on the new DD40s? Is this true?
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Where did you hear that? That is 100% false all the screws and pins are 18k gold.

[Lex_Ordo]

Originally Posted by wach16

For me it was a no brainer. DD40 has better proportions (IMO) and I like the technical advancements of the 3255 movement and the ceramic pin inserts for my WG version.

Above.
Maybe I missed something?

[Famz_01]

I have both dd40 in rose with olive and I feel it’s is much more formal then my Yg ddII. I would never sell my 41 and feel I would move the 40 before the 41. When I go out and Im wearing casual it’s the 41. If I wear a suit or something a bit more formal I’ll throw on the 40.

[Lex_Ordo]

When I was looking at a the DateJust, I was just sold on the Arabic Rhodium Dial, and the fact it came with an Oyster Bracelet. Not realizing it at the time, I did not know that prior to the DJII, the largest case was 36mm. Even though the Aabic rhodium was avaialble in 36, I was set on the larger 41mm.

Seems the DDII also created the jump which allowed for the larger case.

And similar to the DJII evolving into the DJ41, so did the DDII into the DD40.

[carl5]

Originally Posted by wach16

For me it was a no brainer. DD40 has better proportions (IMO) and I like the technical advancements of the 3255 movement and the ceramic pin inserts for my WG version.

Perfect answer
would go with this.

[crowncollection]

40mm has better proportions imho

[dmash]

DD40 100%, I never wanted a DD until they released the 40.

[Rado63]

I am never sure what people refer to as the DDII is out of proportion. I always ask, by which measure is it out of proportion. I think the DDII is the watch of its time period. Watches were growing. The DDII and the DJII had fewer dial choices compared to the current catalog pieces. If choosing between the DDII and the DD40 I would compare metals, and dial configurations and then decide, The DD40 measures just under 40mm so 39.8 approx. If I had a larger wrist, or just want more presence on the wrist I would take the DDII. Certainly can't go wrong with the current piece, because it's more classically sized. I also like the dial updates in the DD40.

[wach16]

Originally Posted by Lex_Ordo

Above.
Maybe I missed something?

In the DDII, only the platinum version had the ceramic inserts for the bracelet links (pins might have a bad word choice). The screws for the adjustable links are certainly pm matching the metal of the watch

[wach16]

Originally Posted by Rado63

I am never sure what people refer to as the DDII is out of proportion. I always ask, by which measure is it out of proportion. I think the DDII is the watch of its time period. Watches were growing. The DDII and the DJII had fewer dial choices compared to the current catalog pieces. If choosing between the DDII and the DD40 I would compare metals, and dial configurations and then decide, The DD40 measures just under 40mm so 39.8 approx. If I had a larger wrist, or just want more presence on the wrist I would take the DDII. Certainly can't go wrong with the current piece, because it's more classically sized. I also like the dial updates in the DD40.

I think the proportion comment is best comparable to the Deepsea model update in 2018 when Rolex thinned the lugs and modified the bracelet based on feedback of the original design. With the DD40, they took the same approach and reduced the bezel thickness and also thinned out the lugs which gives it it a much different look than the DDII even though there is only 1mm of difference on paper. Proportions although very small, do matter

[htc8p]

I have the dd36 and it’s classy and elegant


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[Monte Cristo]

DD40 for me

[Ny325]

DD40. A classic Rolex.

[Jim Smyth]

Originally Posted by wach16

For me it was a no brainer. DD40 has better proportions (IMO) and I like the technical advancements of the 3255 movement and the ceramic pin inserts for my WG version.

I like them both but used this logic above to make my decision. Plus the DDII are older now and IMO all coming up on service intervals.

[Lex_Ordo]

Originally Posted by Rado63

... The DDII and the DJII had fewer dial choices compared to the current catalog pieces. If choosing between the DDII and the DD40 I would compare metals, and dial configurations and then decide, The DD40 measures just under 40mm so 39.8 approx....

Your post above is spot on. And I believe the DJ41 is actually less than 41mm too.

I have reviewed dial catalog pages going back to 2013, and it is true. There were not many dial options, for either DDII or DJII, and when I chose my DJII, I wanted the dial.
I mentioned above that the dial I liked was also available in 36mm, but I wanted a larger case. This was the only option.

Seems that the DDII was discontinued around 2015, about a year or so earlier than the DJII.

Everything is going to run an evolution, and the current DJ and DD sizes are a direct result of case size increases and modifications.

Now, I need to save for that one DD40 that appears in the future, which has a dial and metal configuration appealing to me.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by Rado63

I am never sure what people refer to as the DDII is out of proportion. I always ask, by which measure is it out of proportion. I think the DDII is the watch of its time period. Watches were growing. The DDII and the DJII had fewer dial choices compared to the current catalog pieces. If choosing between the DDII and the DD40 I would compare metals, and dial configurations and then decide, The DD40 measures just under 40mm so 39.8 approx. If I had a larger wrist, or just want more presence on the wrist I would take the DDII. Certainly can't go wrong with the current piece, because it's more classically sized. I also like the dial updates in the DD40.

the fluted bezel is too thick and shrinks the dial so it just makes the whole case look off

[HogwldFLTR]

To my eye I really see little difference. Quite a stir made of little change, imho.

[Rrpdc]

Originally Posted by wach16

For me it was a no brainer. DD40 has better proportions (IMO) and I like the technical advancements of the 3255 movement and the ceramic pin inserts for my WG version.

+1.
You summed it up well!

[Hollie_Rollie]

DD40 but there are some amazing deals on the DD36 and they are still beautiful watches

[PaulEvansLoafers]

I would definitely go with the DD40. I think it strikes the perfect balance, plus, in my opinion, is truer to the classic rolex design.

[nachopc]

DD40 most advance technically and beautiful, functionality at the same time.

That’s the reason they called the other one Day Date 2


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[CGrate]

I have larger wrists due to my size so I prefer the DDII, but I love the mechanics and attention to detail of the 40

[NWNL]

DD40 by far!

[nosignalbmwdriver]

Day Date 2 without question for me especially in PT

[Lex_Ordo]

Ready for another...

There was also a DD Special Edition in 39mm and 36mm. Some very attractive dials in this venue.

I count 57 different types in the 2013 catalog, I don't think I can post all but will try.

[Lex_Ordo]

Here are some more...

[Vanmarsenille]

As demonstrated by the replies in this thread, there’s no shortage of people willing to dunk on the DDII. I’m not sure why it evokes this kind of response, although I am biased. I bought a YG DDII 5 years ago, and chose it over the DD40, because for me, I simply liked it better. Like many of the questions asked on these forums, there is no wrong answer, it’s just a matter of your own taste.

[Lex_Ordo]

Can you post a Pic? Love to see it.