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Old 27 March 2020, 12:51 PM   #31
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He does have a negative feedback for selling this same watch. Apparently looks like twice in the same day. All his positive feedback is about him buying except one. Check his negative feedback.
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Old 27 March 2020, 12:57 PM   #32
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I followed this auction on the bay. It just sold for 9,150 euros as I write this, a whopping 4,300 euros less than Chrono24 valuation. And this is only the beginning. If I was in the market for a pre-owned Hulk I think I'd wait.

https://www.ebay.fr/itm/133365899710

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Comes with a fake Rolex bag (at least only way I was able to find same looking bag is by searching for fake Rolex bag, I'm not aware of existence of real bags looking like this, correct if I'm wrong.), fake white tag looking nothing like original white tag, the box looks fake as well.
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Old 27 March 2020, 01:04 PM   #33
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He does have a negative feedback for selling this same watch. Apparently looks like twice in the same day. All his positive feedback is about him buying except one. Check his negative feedback.
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Comes with a fake Rolex bag (at least only way I was able to find same looking bag is by searching for fake Rolex bag, I'm not aware of existence of real bags looking like this, correct if I'm wrong.), fake white tag looking nothing like original white tag, the box looks fake as well.
And to add to those, at least to me something about the watches looks off. Now I'm not saying I definitely can tell it, but if I had to make an educated guess based on this info, I'm guessing both are fake. It's especially hard to tell with bad picture quality, but I would guess fake.
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Old 27 March 2020, 01:08 PM   #34
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At this point only comment I can make is that this watch has been available since 2010. Two examples here looked to be older pieces. If the stock market over the last couple of days isn't losing hope, then it's doubtful we will see free fall in prices across the board. But if you are looking to buy, this could be the time for a dip in prices.
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Old 27 March 2020, 01:21 PM   #35
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Makes sense the first to lower prices will be those sellers who can least gamble prices will come back - private sellers and micro greys on ebay and forums.

The bigger greys have been buying up hot watches for years at MSRP; they can hold out longer and still make a profit.

I’m glad more folks will get a shot a watch they love.
I don't think this is true at all. Maybe in SOME cases they get hot watches at MSRP but in most cases they're buying it from the person who paid retail. I've sold many of my watches to a prominent grey dealer and he always pays about 15-25% less than market value, depending on the watch. That's a fair deal IMO. I sold him my white Daytona a few months ago. He gave me 21k and then listed it for 23.5 (likely settled for 23).

Anything he has in stock that he bought in the last few months will be sold at a loss to him if the prices continue to slide.

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Old 27 March 2020, 01:28 PM   #36
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Yea greys going to take a hit if they paid that close to market value...but the Daytona has been out for 4 years so if he made 2-3k off 100 daytonas in the past 4 years he will be ok lol
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Old 27 March 2020, 02:25 PM   #37
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Yep, there’ll be even more scammers now using enticingly close-to-Msrp prices to lure the foolish with the cover of the declining market.
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Old 27 March 2020, 05:24 PM   #38
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Guys the bag and tag instantly look fake, and box questionable.........

Don’t take everything at face value. If It looks “cheap”, let that ring alarm bells in your head.
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Old 27 March 2020, 05:50 PM   #39
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eBay is a minefield regarding buying or selling Rolex watches especially a ceramic sub, the copies and the scammers are too good, my friend listed a Deep Sea for cash on collection, the buyers managed to switch the bag of money during the sale leaving my friend with no watch or money.
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Old 27 March 2020, 05:57 PM   #40
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I would keep my fake radar at 11 in the current market. Pre-Covid, dumping the price would quickly reveal you as a scam artist: "Yeah right, no way he would sell at that price if it was real". In this market, with everyone expecting prices to plummet, a low priced fake might seem more trustworthy.

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- If I was in the market for, say, a $10k Hulk, I certainly would look twice
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Old 27 March 2020, 06:36 PM   #41
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eBay is a minefield regarding buying or selling Rolex watches especially a ceramic sub, the copies and the scammers are too good, my friend listed a Deep Sea for cash on collection, the buyers managed to switch the bag of money during the sale leaving my friend with no watch or money.
Holy shit that is painful.

When I had one of my watches on chrono24 the amount of messages I had to view the watch in central london to verify it and or pay cash, when I told them absolutely no problem, but it would be in my secure government office where it was under appointment only and they needed to bring photo ID and get registered in reception, I either had no reply or replies saying oh sorry they can’t make it anymore

World is full of these scum !!
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Old 27 March 2020, 07:36 PM   #42
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Here's a quick checklist to identify a fake watch. It's simple and has been proven every time.

* Are the pictures taken on a bed? -already at 50% risk it's a fake. Add bad lighting and we're at 100%.

Prove me wrong.
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Old 27 March 2020, 07:54 PM   #43
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Comes with a fake Rolex bag (at least only way I was able to find same looking bag is by searching for fake Rolex bag, I'm not aware of existence of real bags looking like this, correct if I'm wrong.), fake white tag looking nothing like original white tag, the box looks fake as well.
+1 Ebay scum
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Old 27 March 2020, 08:52 PM   #44
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Just for a real world point of reference a 2011 Hulk just sold for 13K incld buyers premium on Southeby's online auction.
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Old 27 March 2020, 09:33 PM   #45
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Holy shit that is painful.



When I had one of my watches on chrono24 the amount of messages I had to view the watch in central london to verify it and or pay cash, when I told them absolutely no problem, but it would be in my secure government office where it was under appointment only and they needed to bring photo ID and get registered in reception, I either had no reply or replies saying oh sorry they can’t make it anymore



World is full of these scum !!





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Old 27 March 2020, 09:41 PM   #46
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Just for a real world point of reference a 2011 Hulk just sold for 13K incld buyers premium on Southeby's online auction.
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Old 27 March 2020, 09:52 PM   #47
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some very good results achieved yesterday, two nautilus watches sold for around Ł64k plus fees each
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Old 27 March 2020, 09:58 PM   #48
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Should have posted 13K without 25% buyer's premium. 16K for 2011, I guess prices aren't coming down yet. A 5711 went for 75K!
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Old 27 March 2020, 11:15 PM   #49
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the dirt on the bezel markings, looks horrible!
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Old 27 March 2020, 11:45 PM   #50
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Good eye, didn't notice that!
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Old 28 March 2020, 12:18 AM   #51
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Guys the bag and tag instantly look fake, and box questionable.........

Don’t take everything at face value. If It looks “cheap”, let that ring alarm bells in your head.
Yes,,,
If it’s “ too good to be true”” walk away,,,,
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Old 28 March 2020, 12:26 AM   #52
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Fake........
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Old 28 March 2020, 01:04 AM   #53
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The writing of 50 on the bezel is fade out
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Old 28 March 2020, 04:40 AM   #54
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Looks fake too me,

Why is the platinum missing on the numbers on the bezel?

Also never seen a Rolex bag like that
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:37 PM   #55
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Fakeeee, caution
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:53 PM   #56
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Before even examining the photos, the lack of ‘proper’ photos would have Alarm bells ringing for me. Side on angles, or face on at a distance...dodgy
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Old 5 April 2020, 12:00 AM   #57
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I know a guy via a friend in Switzerland with a Hulk from 2017 that was selling for 8.9K euro some days ago, full set, great condition. The guy got it at retail and doesn’t care to sell more and make 2-3 grand euro, he is like that and I respect him for it.. it may happen but it’s not the rule


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Old 5 April 2020, 12:03 AM   #58
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Relisted for 7,400 euros, something's fishy.
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Old 5 April 2020, 12:24 AM   #59
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Relisted for 7,400 euros, something's fishy.
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Old 5 April 2020, 12:29 AM   #60
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The scammers will be out in full force now be careful my friends.
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