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Old 4 April 2020, 11:03 AM   #1
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5 digit subs

Okay love the look of the 5 digit sub, had a 14060M and 16610, traded them on for the new pepsi. I love the new pepsi and wouldn't trade back, but still miss the two I traded for it. If that makes sense. But then I remember why I parted with the 5 digits. To me they felt like they were not worth the price tag. Not like the newer pieces are per se, but the feeling in the hand of the newer pieces is more luxury if you will. The materials, the bracelet, clasp etc. feel more in line with a higher price tag - even though i know some or all is quite inflated relative to materials anyway. Question is, how do I scratch the 5 digit itch? How do I overcome the feeling it is "not worth it" to add back to my collection? Anyone out there who has similar thoughts about the 5 digit prices nowadays and gotten over it?
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:08 AM   #2
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I have very similar feelings about the 5 digit subs. To me, it comes down to the bracelet. Put a modern oyster on a 5 digit sub and I’m all over it.
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:19 AM   #3
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Get a Tudor BB58. 5-digit vibe at a nice entry price point.
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:23 AM   #4
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I enjoy wearing both the 5 and 6 digit models.

They all have their own features.
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:27 AM   #5
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I actually traded all 6 digits to 5 and couldn’t be happier! The 5 digit Rolex’s feel like tool watches not like jewelry.
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:28 AM   #6
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I may have expressed this too many times in the forum, but the 5 digits have this certain charm, they look great under the cuffs. On casual attire, it looks really dated.

6 digits look more fresh when on casual attire.
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:35 AM   #7
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Check out the Yachtmaster. The case is much more like the 5 digit. It can be dressed up or down and has the modern amenities.


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Old 4 April 2020, 01:15 PM   #8
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I'm where you were at. Have a 16610 and looking to get into a 116610. Mainly for the bracelet.
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Old 4 April 2020, 01:19 PM   #9
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Mine was from 1978 or 9 and didn't seem to have many digits. Wish I had kept it!
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Old 4 April 2020, 03:06 PM   #10
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I actually traded all 6 digits to 5 and couldn’t be happier! The 5 digit Rolex’s feel like tool watches not like jewelry.


I like the tool watch element also. This is kinda what I’m saying. The high price tag seems more fitting for luxury jewelry than it does a tool watch.


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Old 4 April 2020, 05:46 PM   #11
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I enjoy my 14060m
I felt at the time it was worth what I paid for it 4 yrs ago, for a 2001, 2 line. Back then they were substantially cheaper than new and used 6 digit. I think they retailed back in day for about 2ish k. I bought at just over 4.
I don't think it's worth much over that if I compare it to other watches. The finish, the bracelet. Is representative of its original MSRP. It's nowhere as big and shiny as the 6 digits. Bracelet v average, indeed mine on rubber straps most of the time but it only really goes on holiday now.
But it is a beautiful watch in its shape and togetherness. I can appreciate even the dial for many moments.
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Old 4 April 2020, 05:46 PM   #12
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I have very similar feelings about the 5 digit subs. To me, it comes down to the bracelet. Put a modern oyster on a 5 digit sub and I’m all over it.
Exactly this. Get a 5 digit Sub that can take a 97200 glidelock bracelet and you have the best of both worlds.
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Old 4 April 2020, 05:50 PM   #13
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They both have there places love my 5 digit 16710 but the heft on the maxi case is nice to IMPO.
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Old 4 April 2020, 10:15 PM   #14
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Get a Tudor BB58. 5-digit vibe at a nice entry price point.
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I actually traded all 6 digits to 5 and couldn’t be happier! The 5 digit Rolex’s feel like tool watches not like jewelry.
did the same, could never get over the lugs on the 6 digit. 5 digits are the last of the real tool vibe feel. I love my 58, highly recommend, wasn't willing to pay 7k for a 14060 when I can get a 58 for half the price.
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Old 4 April 2020, 10:25 PM   #15
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Glad to hear I’m not the only one. Really want a 5 digit but I just can’t justify paying their current asking prices

The 6 digit is way too blingy “look at me” over the top IMO
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Old 4 April 2020, 10:50 PM   #16
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Totally feel the same. I went to try on a load of 5 and 6 digit pieces a few months back. I tried a 5 digit Pepsi and a Kermit. Both felt absolutely perfect on the wrist. But, I then tried a ceramic sub and could get beyond the quality of the bracelet.

So I kinda have the same issue. I don’t think 5 digits are worth the current prices and the bracelets don’t compare to the 6 digits. But, they do wear so much better and look better to my eye.

Tough one. I think the 6 digits are a better buy on a like for like price basis.
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:22 PM   #17
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Question is, how do I scratch the 5 digit itch?
Wait a month or two and get a 5 digit back.
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:30 PM   #18
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Okay love the look of the 5 digit sub, had a 14060M and 16610, traded them on for the new pepsi. I love the new pepsi and wouldn't trade back, but still miss the two I traded for it. If that makes sense. But then I remember why I parted with the 5 digits. To me they felt like they were not worth the price tag. Not like the newer pieces are per se, but the feeling in the hand of the newer pieces is more luxury if you will. The materials, the bracelet, clasp etc. feel more in line with a higher price tag - even though i know some or all is quite inflated relative to materials anyway. Question is, how do I scratch the 5 digit itch? How do I overcome the feeling it is "not worth it" to add back to my collection? Anyone out there who has similar thoughts about the 5 digit prices nowadays and gotten over it?


You don’t. See there was a reason for the bracelet. The new bracelets are not stronger, they simply feel that way. There are 4 fine adjustments to make on the old bracelets, and they were lighter-why, because lighter has functional utility. See it’s marketing gimmick, the bracelets are held by the same pins. Wider lugs are not an upgrade rather give it more wrist presence. Ceramics- 40 year old technology and more like to fail-not to mention they still have not perfected the colors. Seiko puts them on $600 watches (no slam on seiko I own them myself). Now mine was a gift and believe my mother spent $3250 in my 16610.

Rolex these so called improvements to continue to raise prices they had to make watches that give the illusion of better. Because they are no longer tools, most of their efforts are in building wrist presence, because they know that when you blow 10k for a watch now a significant portion of their buyers wants recognition for owning a Rolex. While Rolex is still very capable, it’s now form first and function second. The movement in the new GMT’s are indeed better. Calling the sub’s at like what now 9k, better is debatable at best.
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Old 4 April 2020, 11:38 PM   #19
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You don’t. See there was a reason for the bracelet. The new bracelets are not stronger, they simply feel that way. There are 4 fine adjustments to make on the old bracelets, and they were lighter-why, because lighter has functional utility. See it’s marketing gimmick, the bracelets are held by the same pins.
Having held both side by side, the 6 digit feels way more solid and much heavier.

The pins, as far as I knew, are now ceramic sleeved in the 6 digit so you don’t get that rattle anymore. The clasps are also way way better than the tuna can clasps.

I don’t believe it’s marketing gimmick. They feel significantly more different.
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Old 5 April 2020, 12:00 AM   #20
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Having held both side by side, the 6 digit feels way more solid and much heavier.

The pins, as far as I knew, are now ceramic sleeved in the 6 digit so you don’t get that rattle anymore. The clasps are also way way better than the tuna can clasps.

I don’t believe it’s marketing gimmick. They feel significantly more different.

I agree. But the term is “feels” more substantial. It’s not functionally better only heavier. The clasps are not better-it’s the same design, again only “feel” better. If they both fail, it will be at the pin level. The most substantial bracelet is a nato, because if one pin fails the watch will not come off. You made my point for me. I am function over form all day long. Same reason I gave my Daytona to my wife, damm elapsed minutes could not be read accurately and so now use my speedy pro.


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Old 5 April 2020, 12:01 AM   #21
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5-digit is the largest watch I will wear.

The 6-digit sports models are all too meaty for me.
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Old 5 April 2020, 12:15 AM   #22
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Old 5 April 2020, 02:27 AM   #23
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I like the tool watch element also. This is kinda what I’m saying. The high price tag seems more fitting for luxury jewelry than it does a tool watch.


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Rolex has not been a tool watch in the true sense of the word for 40 years. They were until the quartz revolution of the 70's, then in order to survive rebranded themselves as a "luxury timepiece".
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Rolex has not been a tool watch in the true sense of the word for 40 years. They were until the quartz revolution of the 70's, then in order to survive rebranded themselves as a "luxury timepiece".
Probably true. I started scuba diving over 30 years ago and while this might seem like a long time to some forum members, no one I knew even thought of using a watch for diving then. Dive computers were well established technology and most gauges contained a digital dive timer and depth gauge that worked better than a watch. And were way cheaper than any decent dive watch especially a Rolex.
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Are 5-digit Subs having a moment right now? Seeing lots of threads on them of late.
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Old 5 April 2020, 05:40 AM   #26
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I actually traded all 6 digits to 5 and couldn’t be happier! The 5 digit Rolex’s feel like tool watches not like jewelry.
That’s precisely why they are prized. No one made tool watches better than Rolex. Not fussy and unpretentious they just oozed class and functionality. If you wanted bling you got a DJ. I love the modern Rolex sports models but I honestly do miss not having a 5 series in my collection. My Explorer 214270 is a nice compromise and feels more tool watch.
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Old 5 April 2020, 02:50 PM   #27
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i went from 6 digit to 5 digit subs because i think they are a little less bulky and the bracelets feel more comfortable i find. that said i loved my time with 6 digit and i am sure there are threads here where i wax lyrical about the glidelock.

weirdly i haven't missed it at all.

the 6 digit bracelet was initially a major part of my enthusiasm for 6 digit. i held a 16710 and thought it seemed like tin foil in comparison to my hulk.

eventually though the appeal of a lighter thinner smaller watch grew and now here i am in 5 digit heaven.
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Old 5 April 2020, 06:10 PM   #28
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Check out the Yachtmaster. The case is much more like the 5 digit. It can be dressed up or down and has the modern amenities.
Was going to mention this, Yachtmaster40
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I enjoy wearing both the 5 and 6 digit models.

They all have their own features.
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Wait a month or two and get a 5 digit back.
I’m 100% picking up an 16600 if we get back to 2015 pricing.
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