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Old 12 November 2018, 03:50 AM   #31
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Uhm... No

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Old 12 November 2018, 03:55 AM   #32
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Wow over 30 posts and nobody has corrected #2. What is TRF coming to?
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Old 12 November 2018, 05:00 AM   #33
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Rules from Rolex, lol... more like rules from AD.

"bracelets have to be sized" hell no I do it myself, thanks.

God bless the grey market! No rules, no stupid talk, no wait list... but sometimes bad prices – still the better deal for me.
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Old 12 November 2018, 05:05 AM   #34
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And I thought UK ‘rules’ were bad.

I miss the days I used to take home a Rolex, carefully peel off the stickers in my living room, get out my tools and size the bracelet. It was like a little ritual and I found it to be quite relaxing and enjoyable. Pity those days seem to be over.
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Old 12 November 2018, 05:14 AM   #35
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New Rolex rules in Taiwan

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I probably didn't describe it clearly. New sales rules are from Rolex, but the pairing rules are made by that AD.


That would be a positive move by Rolex if implemented internationally. However, what stops the AD from selling the watch to a gray out the back door. Rolex needs to needs to register the warranty at time of sale like TAG does. Only the dealer can do that. Just purchased a TAG and the AD explained the process.

Pairing is a no.
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Old 12 November 2018, 05:29 AM   #36
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I probably didn't describe it clearly. New sales rules are from Rolex, but the pairing rules are made by that AD.


Thanks for clarifying. Makes a lot of sense now.
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Old 12 November 2018, 06:05 AM   #37
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I think I would find forced bundling more unpalatable than paying over MSRP.
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Old 12 November 2018, 06:09 AM   #38
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ADs in Taiwan have always only sold the 116500 to VIPs, been this way since the start. Their allocation is tiny and there’s only a handful of ADs in the country. No average joe has ever walked in or got on a waitlist and paid only MSRP for it.

My coworker is stationed there for work and tells me how blessed we are to be in the US.
He had to buy a couple of Patek for the AD in 101 to get him a black dial.
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Old 12 November 2018, 06:11 AM   #39
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Old 12 November 2018, 06:21 AM   #40
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"2. Coffins can't be given to customers"

I can walk in to my AD anytime and get a coffin.
Is there a different between a coffin shipped with the watch and a coffin that ADs give out freely. They both look the same to me.
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Old 12 November 2018, 07:37 AM   #41
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My AD has a similar rule. If you purchase a PM piece you can get pretty much any hot model.
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Old 14 November 2018, 02:09 AM   #42
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Couldn't understand why Rolex want a rule of ”Coffins can't be given to customers".
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Old 14 November 2018, 03:01 AM   #43
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My AD has a similar rule. If you purchase a PM piece you can get pretty much any hot model.


I’m assuming that’s a 0% discount on the PM? Not sure what the draw is there. Pay for a PM with no discount or go grey market with the hot model. Considering the markup on a Daytona it just becomes 6 of one or half dozen of the other.
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Old 14 November 2018, 03:11 AM   #44
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My AD has a similar rule. If you purchase a PM piece you can get pretty much any hot model.
not including the ss daytona and the hulk i am sure.
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Old 14 November 2018, 03:43 AM   #45
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Just saw a notice from an AD in Taiwan that Rolex has changed their policy. The new rules start this week. Basically:

1. Selling over MSRP is no longer permitted
2. Coffins can't be given to customers
3. Stickers must be removed and bracelets have to be sized
4. Warranty card has to be named
5. Large volume purchases are not permitted

That AD also has a chart attached for their new purchase rule as well, from buying a 116500LN has to be paired with a $20k+ USD watch to 114060 has to be paired with a Tudor of AD's choice.
1. Good.
2. Incomprehensible.
3. Fine
4. Good.
5. Excellent.

"14060 has to be paired with a Tudor of AD's choice": Complete and utter insanity. What if the customer does not want a Tudor and has never had any interest in Tudors? Are they having such a hard time selling Tudors that they have to force people to buy them and not even allow them to choose which Tudor they want? I would never agree to these terms.
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Old 14 November 2018, 04:52 AM   #46
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(insert middle finger here) for the AD.
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Old 14 November 2018, 07:02 AM   #47
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Wait so its only in the UK that cards are kept for a year? Any other country who do this?
Just got a Tudor GMT from an AD last week here in the states and was given the warranty card. Last Rolex I bought was 7-8 years ago but they gave me the card then as well.
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Old 14 November 2018, 07:57 AM   #48
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That would be a positive move by Rolex if implemented internationally. However, what stops the AD from selling the watch to a gray out the back door. Rolex needs to needs to register the warranty at time of sale like TAG does. Only the dealer can do that. Just purchased a TAG and the AD explained the process.

Pairing is a no.
Not only does the dealer need to register the warranty at the time of sale, but they want it done very quickly from the time the AD receives the watch. Rolex nowadays is telling ADs what they have available for them and communication with ADs are taken into account when allocating watches. Rolex assumes that if an AD wants a certain hot watch, they have at least one or more customers in line.

Therefore, registering the sale and warranty card quikly tells Rolex that the AD has made a legit non grey sale as soon as they got the watch, which speaks very well of the AD to Rolex, which in turn is taken into account for future hot watch allocation.
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Old 14 November 2018, 07:41 PM   #49
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Just saw a notice from an AD in Taiwan that Rolex has changed their policy. The new rules start this week. Basically:

1. Selling over MSRP is no longer permitted
2. Coffins can't be given to customers
3. Stickers must be removed and bracelets have to be sized
4. Warranty card has to be named
5. Large volume purchases are not permitted

That AD also has a chart attached for their new purchase rule as well, from buying a 116500LN has to be paired with a $20k+ USD watch to 114060 has to be paired with a Tudor of AD's choice.
That's just Taiwan...
1. Bought a Pepsi last week from my AD at well over retail (independent AD's can charge as they like...MSuggestedRP).
2. Took my coffin
3. Correct, my AD did the same
4. Same
5. Permitted

That last is a rule for that AD only...really, you MUST purchase a Tudor of their choice...horse-shizzle.
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Old 14 November 2018, 08:35 PM   #50
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Old 14 November 2018, 08:42 PM   #51
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1. Good.
2. Incomprehensible.
3. Fine
4. Good.
5. Excellent.

"14060 has to be paired with a Tudor of AD's choice": Complete and utter insanity. What if the customer does not want a Tudor and has never had any interest in Tudors? Are they having such a hard time selling Tudors that they have to force people to buy them and not even allow them to choose which Tudor they want? I would never agree to these terms.
Totally agree with this. Rolex and Tudor have separate brand identities. I can't see why Rolex would ever force having to buy a Tudor on customers. If anything that actually cheapens the Tudor brand. I think this must be the individual store policy.
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