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Old 13 November 2018, 07:05 AM   #121
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Exactly
That's disappointing. The 722 checks a lot of boxes for me, but I'm not interested in buying a headache. I like my watches like I like my cars: low maintenance and trouble free.
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Old 13 November 2018, 07:11 AM   #122
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I would say the following.

Rolex = Mercedes Benz. Commonly known and luxury. Aspirational brand for many to own. Expensive but accessible for a relatively large number of people. The point about MB being used as everything from luxury limousine to taxi shows the versatility and also represents the cross section of Rolex pricing.

PP = RR. Top end luxury. Large degree of hand finishing. Timeless and classic. Broadly considered top of the game for ‘mainstream’ watches (to WIS) and cars.

RM = Pagani. Sports focused. Design heavy. Uncompromisingly unique.

VC/ ALS = Maybach. Strictly business. Super high end options available. Little known.

AP ROO = Lamborghini. Luxury sports specialists. Bold designs. Unconventional materials.

AP RO = Ferrari. Also with classic designs to represent the original RO. Luxury sports but not as brash as a Lambo.

Omega = Audi / BMW. Sturdy and solid but probably won’t set pulses racing unless you tier up to the top end specs.

G shock = Land Rover / Toyota SUV. Absolutely Indestructible.
ferrari is hublot
bmw is tudor
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Old 13 November 2018, 07:13 AM   #123
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Old 13 November 2018, 07:21 AM   #124
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Porsche = IWC. Highly functional timepieces, specifically designed to deliver against set purposes. Excellently made. Recognisable. Stretches into the high end.

Jag = FPJ. Less ubiquitous, fabulously made. Strong loyalty amongst aficionados.
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Old 13 November 2018, 08:19 AM   #125
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AP = lamborghini - flashy unorthodox designs
rolex = porsche - durable/iconic design
PP = ferrari?
Yep, this.
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Old 13 November 2018, 11:28 AM   #126
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Yes, i agree Rolex= Mercedes in the car world.
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Old 13 November 2018, 11:36 AM   #127
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Apple Watch = Tesla. Packed with gadgets and performance but you must charge with regular use.
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Old 13 November 2018, 12:36 PM   #128
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Zero rage or even anger. Not sure how you read rage in his post, my posts, or any posts in this discussion. A disagreement doesn’t equal rage. He told me to pull my head out of my ass, or rear end, for having a point of view, which seems a bit harsh, but whatever. Maybe he was trying to be funny, but it surely didn’t seem like rage. Maybe a bit aggressive, but that’s it. I responded with valid points. I didn’t use any punctuation to insinuate rage, anger, or anything of the like. I didn’t curse, use all caps, call him derogatory names, or anything like that. You may have read a bit too much into it? It always helps me when I read disagreements like a calm conversation when the punctuation warrants it. Have a good night. Notice I even put cute emojis in so nobody misconstrues my post.
Okay, maybe not rage. I was referring to his post - apologies for being unclear.
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Old 13 November 2018, 12:46 PM   #129
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i ll buy that Rolex= benz or porshe,
i would say Panerai= Jeep
and BMW = swatch...

i like benz...they are nice to drive....
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Old 13 November 2018, 12:50 PM   #130
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Not sure about that...
My personal experience has been the exact opposite.
i would agree...my neighbors buy BMW and sell them because they keep having problems..i like my Benz...fits like a glove, and beautiful to drive especially in sport mode.
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Old 13 November 2018, 01:13 PM   #131
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A Rolex is a Porsche! You get in both cases the most for your money, classic design, iconic.
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Old 13 November 2018, 01:23 PM   #132
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I suppose I can see the Mercedes Rolex comparison and think it’s ratger valid. I have quite a few of each and appreciate them both very much. Both brands are Marketing machines and are thus incredibly recognizeable.
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Old 13 November 2018, 01:55 PM   #133
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An MB??? You must be joking. It's really a German Cadillac for the local rather porcine Burgermeister.
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Old 13 November 2018, 03:07 PM   #134
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Jacob = Bugatti hahahahaha!
Whoever said this has no clue of these watches and/or cars, lol.
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Old 13 November 2018, 03:09 PM   #135
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An MB??? You must be joking. It's really a German Cadillac for the local rather porcine Burgermeister.
Actually politicians mostly use Audi over there.
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Old 13 November 2018, 03:24 PM   #136
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Meh, I don't feel watches and cars these days can be compared like this. Maybe 20 years ago they could be....

However, now, BMW/Mercedes has 5 million different models to choose from and a lot of them are entry level garbage. Unless you have one of the higher end models, I'm not sure owning a BMW or Mercedes signifies luxury or even wealth like it used to.

Rolex hasn't been watering down the market offering new models for $3k, etc. I'd compare to Rolex to Porsche.....even the low end Porsches are the cost of a high end BMW/Mercedes these days.
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Old 13 November 2018, 03:44 PM   #137
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Last of the purest breed...

Porsche, air cooled turbo....
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Old 13 November 2018, 03:47 PM   #138
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The current styling of Mercedes just don't tick off my boxes. I like the Rolex style much better in comparison.
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Old 13 November 2018, 04:02 PM   #139
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When my wife brought home her new MB GLK and I found out it had plastic seats, I knew the Mystique was over. When I told my sister that her ML was made in Alabama, she threw up in her mouth.

Generally speaking, you never get what you pay for. $20K GMT, you've got to be kidding.
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Old 13 November 2018, 11:32 PM   #140
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Every company has to have a SUV. Rolls, Bentley, Lamborghini, etc.. Porsche was just ahead of the game and that still doesn't change the unbroken 911 line is still and always the Hallmark of the brand. Who cares what entry level vehicles pays the bills as long as the history of the 911 is still unwavered in all its many forms. Even the entry Boxster and Cayman have a GTS line that is now far from entry level.
The Porsche 911 is one of my favorite vehicles of all time. I have loved it since I was a kid.

I don't even have a huge problem with them producing SUV's, but dammit if it's going to have the word "Porsche" on the back of it, it better be a serious performance machine.

For them to produce a ~250hp Macan (roughly the same performance specs as my wife's Toyota Highlander) is just embarrassing for a company that has forever been known as one of the greatest sports car manufacturers of all time. The Macan is basically a Porsche CR-V, and the base Cayenne is just a Porsche Explorer. They should have only produced SUV's with high performance (and high pricetags) and not offered it in this economy models.

They are destroying the brand with this money grab. How would we feel if Rolex offered a Submariner-lite or whatever that sold for $1,000. I'm sure they would sell a gazillion of them but the rest of us in the Rolex "premium" models wouldn't feel too great about it and might look at another watch company the next time around.

Like Rolex, Porsche is not supposed to be common, it's supposed to be extremely expensive, it's supposed to feel at least a little exclusive, it's part of the brand cashet in my opinion. Porsche is going the Omega route and trying to be everything to everyone, and as a longtime lover of their vehicles it's hard for me to watch...
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Old 13 November 2018, 11:43 PM   #141
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Rolex closest to Porsche in my opinion. They both have some iconic lines and are instantly recognizable even from model to model. They try to keep a family resemblance going. Both extremely reliable for what they are compared to their competition. Both have some models that only the true fan will recognize. They both control their supply and demand really well on their most sought after models, ie Sub, Daytona, GMT, GT3, GT2 RS etc.
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Old 13 November 2018, 11:51 PM   #142
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Old 14 November 2018, 12:33 AM   #143
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The Porsche 911 is one of my favorite vehicles of all time. I have loved it since I was a kid.

I don't even have a huge problem with them producing SUV's, but dammit if it's going to have the word "Porsche" on the back of it, it better be a serious performance machine.

For them to produce a ~250hp Macan (roughly the same performance specs as my wife's Toyota Highlander) is just embarrassing for a company that has forever been known as one of the greatest sports car manufacturers of all time. The Macan is basically a Porsche CR-V, and the base Cayenne is just a Porsche Explorer. They should have only produced SUV's with high performance (and high pricetags) and not offered it in this economy models.

They are destroying the brand with this money grab. How would we feel if Rolex offered a Submariner-lite or whatever that sold for $1,000. I'm sure they would sell a gazillion of them but the rest of us in the Rolex "premium" models wouldn't feel too great about it and might look at another watch company the next time around.

Like Rolex, Porsche is not supposed to be common, it's supposed to be extremely expensive, it's supposed to feel at least a little exclusive, it's part of the brand cashet in my opinion. Porsche is going the Omega route and trying to be everything to everyone, and as a longtime lover of their vehicles it's hard for me to watch...
It took me 40yrs to get the car of my dreams, 911 C2S (I couldnt afford the 79 911E of my dreams), and I have to admit, if the Boxster (986) and the original Cayenne never existed, neither would my 997 C2S. Porsche had to produce these vehicles to allow them to continue as a company, the air cooled 911's were simply being regulated out of future production by the peoples republic of Californification emmisons laws and the EU with its never ending reams of regs, all at the same time as the company were experiencing huge financial difficulties. They had zero choice but to be part of VAG and to produce what I like to call "loss leader models" or they would have all but disappeared, with the exception of models like the 918, and been in the same catagory as the Bugatti (also VAG), for example .... making cars that were a loss to produce and sell to billionaires, just to keep the marque alive.

Supercars have moved on in huge leaps and bounds, we now have hypercars and autoexotica, all of which have pushed Porsche in to the sportscar category unfortunately. How many times have you read reviews that call it the luxury sportscar you can drive every day? Hell, you just have to look at the sheer size of the new 911 to realise its far from the car it used to be .... evolution or not.

As much as it pains me .... I accept that Nissan GTR's, Mitsubishi Lancers, Subari Impretsa's, some BMW's, Merc's and Audi's, ALL show all but the GT and RS cars within the 911 camp a clean set of heels these days .... it is what it is, but I'd still rather climb in to my 8 yr old 911 than a brand new one of any of the aforementioned, any day of the week, so I'm glad the Macan and Cayenne, Panamera etc exist to keep the books in the black so I can put my revs in the red.
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Old 14 November 2018, 01:17 AM   #144
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Hilarious ,,
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Old 14 November 2018, 01:19 AM   #145
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Rolex = Mercedes? Don't say that... I owned a Mercedes once. Once.
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Old 14 November 2018, 01:20 AM   #146
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Porsche, air cooled turbo....
One of the greatest sports car ever,,,
Best 911 model of them alll,
Thanks for sharing,,
Pure unadulterated class,,
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Old 14 November 2018, 01:39 AM   #147
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Old 14 November 2018, 01:40 AM   #148
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Rolex to me is like a newer Jeep. Tough as heck, reliable, just enough refinement to start getting kind of snooty, and nearly unmatched at what they're good at. But overpriced, highly desired by the masses, and with ridiculous resale value.
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Old 14 November 2018, 02:06 AM   #149
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I haven't read all of this, but it appears there are a lot of opinions stated above. The one indisputable fact is that the Rolex Daytona is the watch equivalent of the Porsche 911.

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Old 14 November 2018, 02:29 AM   #150
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