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Old 23 July 2021, 04:05 AM   #1
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Manual wind vs self winding

What do you think about manual wound watches? Do they get annoying sometimes?
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Old 23 July 2021, 04:08 AM   #2
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What do you think about manual wound watches? Do they get annoying sometimes?
I like them for a change of pace. It’s actually kind of nice to sit with your watch over a morning coffee and enjoy winding it (at least that’s what I do)

Mine has 72 hours of reserve, so by the time it winds down, I’m ready to wear a new watch anyway
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Old 23 July 2021, 04:10 AM   #3
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I like them for a change of pace. It’s actually kind of nice to sit with your watch over a morning coffee and enjoy winding it (at least that’s what I do)

Mine has 72 hours of reserve, so by the time it winds down, I’m ready to wear a new watch anyway
How many winds do you actually have to do for it to last the whole day?
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Old 23 July 2021, 04:23 AM   #4
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How many winds do you actually have to do for it to last the whole day?
From a dead stop its about 90 or so.

I brought it on vacation once and I just got in the habit of winding it every other day about 40 times.

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Old 23 July 2021, 04:26 AM   #5
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Depends on the crown. The Speedy is not the most enjoyable watch to wind. Tudors on the other hand are fun to wind (even though they are automatics)
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Old 23 July 2021, 04:27 AM   #6
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Depends on the crown. The Speedy is not the most enjoyable watch to wind. Tudors on the other hand are fun to wind (even though they are automatics)
Excellent point Mike.
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Old 23 July 2021, 04:35 AM   #7
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Depends on the crown. The Speedy is not the most enjoyable watch to wind. Tudors on the other hand are fun to wind (even though they are automatics)
Reason? It's hard going from a self to manual, but the Speedy is so nice.
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Old 23 July 2021, 04:47 AM   #8
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I always prefer a manual wind watch...I like first the way the movements look much better (when visible) and I like to connect with my watch...man and machine!

That said, I agree some Omegas aren't the easiest to wind...yet others are buttery smooth...weird.
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Old 23 July 2021, 04:50 AM   #9
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Reason? It's hard going from a self to manual, but the Speedy is so nice.
It's not a screw down crown and the positioning with the crown guards makes it a little trickier to wind. A Tudor has a nice big crown that unscrews and pops out and there are no crown guards to get in the way.

It's no a major deal or anything but it was part of the reason I moved over to the automatic Speedmasters.

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Old 23 July 2021, 04:50 AM   #10
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I have scars on my thumb from my Speedy.
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Old 23 July 2021, 05:43 AM   #11
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I have scars on my thumb from my Speedy.

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Old 23 July 2021, 05:49 AM   #12
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Depends on the crown. The Speedy is not the most enjoyable watch to wind. Tudors on the other hand are fun to wind (even though they are automatics)
I used to have a big issue winding my Speedmaster until I bought a rubber thimble. It makes winding it a breeze now. A box of 12 on Amazon was roughly $6.

Also, I love manual watches, and actually prefer them to automatics.
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Old 23 July 2021, 06:22 AM   #13
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I love winding it up (Lange) and watching the power reserve indicator move at this time. I need a little over a minute to fully wind up. In Reverso (cal 822) winding is easy and pleasant, as in Montblanc (Peseux 7001), in Lange a bit more cumbersome due to the greater resistance and construction of the crown itself.
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Old 23 July 2021, 07:09 AM   #14
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What do you think about manual wound watches? Do they get annoying sometimes?
Not at all. I like the interaction with the watch.
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Old 23 July 2021, 07:32 AM   #15
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As in winding...

Actually I love an 8-day manual movement more than an automatic simply because you can almost not worry about whether you wear it or not, a good turn keeps it going for over a week. An automatic, on the other, typically has less than a few days reserve so it's much easier to forget to wind it, if you are not wearing everyday, 7 days a week.
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Old 23 July 2021, 12:37 PM   #16
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All things being equal, I prefer manual winding watches to self-winding... much like shifting a manual transmission car...

I will admit the Speedmaster isn't the easiest to wind, but the new 3861 is not terrible (supposedly it's a little easier than the 1861). I have vintage watches with smaller crowns that are harder to wind... It's still not a deal-breaker though.
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Old 23 July 2021, 02:01 PM   #17
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All my watches have been automatic, until a couple weeks ago when I got the speedy. Gotta say, I do enjoy the process of winding it up, though I wish the crown was just a little bigger.


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Old 23 July 2021, 02:28 PM   #18
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I myself much prefer a automatic watch if it's a simple 3 hand. But I have several chronographs that I like very much but were to thick. 16-19 mm's.

I found that if a watch was to thick it didn't stay around very long. So my next chronograph will be a Speedmaster professional manual wind of course. That will keep it thin.

I enjoyed pocket watches for many years and actually liked winding them every morning.
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Old 23 July 2021, 02:33 PM   #19
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Prefer manual over auto, is just another level of connection with your watch.
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Old 23 July 2021, 02:35 PM   #20
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Prefer auto if the watch will be used regularly/ daily wear.

If occasional dress piece, then a manual wind is perfect.

Manual movements are typically much More interesting to look at.
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Old 23 July 2021, 02:58 PM   #21
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I have scars on my thumb from my Speedy.
I hear you Larry.
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Old 23 July 2021, 05:44 PM   #22
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I've always had automatic watches and love the functionality of it always thought its one of the coolest in a watch. However, recently got a speedmaster with a manual wind and actually enjoyed it a lot being more engaged with the watch.


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Old 23 July 2021, 07:55 PM   #23
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It depends on what kind of crown watch has. I like onion crown and pocket watch like click spring(strong audible sound and feel).

If watch has small crown and gritty wound feel...it is annoying.

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Old 23 July 2021, 09:20 PM   #24
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No issues with manual wind or automatic. It is a nice change up for the manual wind sometimes. Gotta love the Speedmaster.
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I have scars on my thumb from my Speedy.
Agreed.

When I bought my first Speedmaster, I asked the owner why he was selling. He said it was tough to wind. I thought, ok, no problem. When I sold, I thought the same thing though I still love the watch.

Now I am looking for a new one
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Old 24 July 2021, 04:39 AM   #26
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From a dead stop its about 90 or so.

I brought it on vacation once and I just got in the habit of winding it every other day about 40 times.

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Old 24 July 2021, 06:48 AM   #27
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Beautiful dial. Panerai makes the coolest blue dial watches IMO.
Thank you, they really are special IMHO

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Old 24 July 2021, 04:45 PM   #28
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Manual wind vs self winding

Noting rational about what I’m going to say, but it depends on the watch.

I’d never want an automatic Speedmaster.

I’d never want a manual wind Submariner, GMT II, Datejust, Daytona, DayDate, etc…

I’d never want an automatic Nomos Orion 38 or Hamilton Khaki (even though both are available as a manual or automatic).

I’d never want a manual wind Seamaster or Aqua Terra.

I’d never want an automatic ALS dress watch or a JLC Reverso.

I’d never want a manual wind AP Royal Oak, Patek Phillipe Nautilus or a VC Overseas.

A little ironic anyway…if you rotate watches and don’t have a winder, does it really matter?


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Agreed.

When I bought my first Speedmaster, I asked the owner why he was selling. He said it was tough to wind. I thought, ok, no problem. When I sold, I thought the same thing though I still love the watch.

Now I am looking for a new one

I sold a Speedmaster with Caliber 1861 because its crown was unreasonably resistant to twisting, and then a few years later my wife bought me another example of the same model and its crown is perfectly easy and buttery smooth to wind. I feel very fortunate because it’s luck of the draw with a Speedmaster Professional!


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Old 24 July 2021, 09:30 PM   #30
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Used to think it was a bother. I am now looking forward to doing it. It's like building a connection with the piece as others have already mentioned.
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