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JSCP · 24 July 2021, 05:53 AM

Why care?

dannyp · 24 July 2021, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nyc10ken

Assuming you mean buying grey, OP41 green then Z-blue but its close

If buying grey, I'd consider the OP41 green least likely of the group to retain its value since it is currently priced at a much higher multiple of MSRP than the others.

If talking a purchase at MSRP, then I'd consider it most likely to retain its value relative to MSRP, but not necessarily relative to current market value.

beshannon · 24 July 2021, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightsped

Realize most do not recommend choosing based on current or future value, but still....

Of the watches below, which is the best guesstimate as to its value increase over the next few years?

124300 - OP41 new model (blue or green face)
116400GV - Milgauss Z Blue
116613LB - Bluesy supercase
126333 - DateJust 41 two tone

This may help the current decision.

Thanks

When do you plan to sell?
What other uses do you have for your investment capital?

Cannot answer your question without knowing these two things

brucethemanlee · 24 July 2021, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank McKay

Awful thread , sorry. Don’t buy a Rolex if you can’t truly afford it and are only concerned about future value in the event you may need to sell it to get your money back.

+100

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NickD1975 · 24 July 2021, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nyc10ken

Then what's the point of buying any investment instrument, if we can't predict the future.

On its own? Just as risky as watches. That’s why you diversify, to spread the risk.

ndrs63 · 24 July 2021, 06:36 AM

If one can afford either of these, the price difference between the 4 when selling will me irrelevant as neither of them is scarce or hot. If money is tight, forget Rolex.
So buy the one you like

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Nairn1980 · 24 July 2021, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightsped

Realize most do not recommend choosing based on current or future value, but still....

Of the watches below, which is the best guesstimate as to its value increase over the next few years?

124300 - OP41 new model (blue or green face)
116400GV - Milgauss Z Blue
116613LB - Bluesy supercase
126333 - DateJust 41 two tone

This may help the current decision.

Thanks

“Don’t buy Rolex for investment”

cronos · 24 July 2021, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightsped

Realize most do not recommend choosing based on current or future value, but still....

Of the watches below, which is the best guesstimate as to its value increase over the next few years?

124300 - OP41 new model (blue or green face)
116400GV - Milgauss Z Blue
116613LB - Bluesy supercase
126333 - DateJust 41 two tone

This may help the current decision.

Thanks

I got the blue OP41,don't care that it is not as rare as the other colors,I think is is a beautiful watch.

I don't think you will lose money if you buy any of them.

Brny11 · 24 July 2021, 07:51 AM

None. OP is hot now. If they discontinue then maybe for some time it will shoot up. Milgauss is also possible to have some growth as it is unique but it’s a meh watch IMO. The other two have no shot.

Also I know nothing so you should assume everything I say is opposite.

donas · 24 July 2021, 08:17 AM

"(iv) THIS IS A ROLEX WATCH DISCUSSION FORUM AND NOT A PRICE OR INVESTMENT OR DISCOUNT DISCUSSION FORUM SO IF YOU HAVE A QUERY REGARDING PRICES, INVESTMENTS OR DISCOUNTS THEN MAKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL ENQUIRIES AND INVESTIGATIONS AND DO NOT POST THOSE ISSUES HERE."

nyc10ken · 24 July 2021, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightsped

Are the sunburst blue OP41s much more common than the greens? Really wish the green had been a sunburst dial.....

Regarding the Milgauss, with the polar white being discontinued for a while now, would it potentially be more valuable then the Z blue or the OP41s in the long run?

Seems like I am the only one actually staying on point with the topic.

They're all hard to get but I believe green is the more rare one. Plus the blue dial is the same as the DJ one so nothing much special about it.

White MG imo is not as popular as blue even though it's discontinued. So no not more valuable than zblue or OP41.

Tricolore66 · 24 July 2021, 08:56 AM

Of that list, I'd say Milgauss Z-blue. It has been made for a relatively short time, and other Milgauss models have been discontinued and it's likely the Z-Blue will be as well before too long. Vintage Milgauss's are rock solid collectibles, so it has some name power going for it.

If you look at grey-market pricing for BNIB Z-Blue's they are currently nearly double the grey-market pricing of just a few years ago. This was a piece that was easily found at dealers and a 10% discount was easy to get, and cheaper than that from the greys. Today BNIB pricing seems to be hovering at around $13,500-14k.

The fact that the watch has been around for years and pricing is where it is says a lot. These colorful OP's are the current Instagram darlings but I don't think we'll see the staying power.

Boaters · 24 July 2021, 10:14 AM

This thread sucks big time!!!

Chadridv · 24 July 2021, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Panader

You have them in order already 1-4.

Yep I agree with this.

HiBoost · 24 July 2021, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightsped

Realize most do not recommend choosing based on current or future value, but still....

Of the watches below, which is the best guesstimate as to its value increase over the next few years?

124300 - OP41 new model (blue or green face)
116400GV - Milgauss Z Blue
116613LB - Bluesy supercase
126333 - DateJust 41 two tone

This may help the current decision.

Thanks

I'm surprised to see several in this thread suggesting the OP has the most potential for increased value. If bought at retail, perhaps, but I'm assuming you are talking about buying all these pieces as market prices, given that not all of them are even current models. So with that in mind I'd suggest that the OP has the highest potential to burn you in terms of ROI. You pay 3x MSRP now and if the Rolex bubble, or even the OP sub-bubble, bursts you are looking at potentially a massive loss.

Andad · 24 July 2021, 10:48 AM

See post 40.

PepsiBezel · 24 July 2021, 11:11 AM

Historically, none of those are traditionally collectible. If the madness stops, it will stop for those. They will still hold decent value compared to watches from other brands.

watchtabs · 24 July 2021, 11:19 AM

Don’t get rolex for investing, wear whatever you like.

RJRJRJ · 24 July 2021, 11:27 AM

OP will probably take the biggest hit once the hype dies down. The rest are not particularly hot, so I would go with none if appreciation is of concern.

Thebuzz · 24 July 2021, 11:36 AM

OP Green.
Unless by blue you mean turquoise.

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Nairn1980 · 24 July 2021, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donas

"(iv) THIS IS A ROLEX WATCH DISCUSSION FORUM AND NOT A PRICE OR INVESTMENT OR DISCOUNT DISCUSSION FORUM SO IF YOU HAVE A QUERY REGARDING PRICES, INVESTMENTS OR DISCOUNTS THEN MAKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL ENQUIRIES AND INVESTIGATIONS AND DO NOT POST THOSE ISSUES HERE."

Probably the most abused rule

donas · 24 July 2021, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nairn1980

Probably the most abused rule

I wonder if there's any correlation with it being the most selectively enforced rule as well!

superpop · 25 July 2021, 12:45 AM

These are mass produced fashion baubles, not an investment vehicle. If you are going to invest in anything I recommend beanie babies.

Tricolore66 · 25 July 2021, 01:03 AM

I was going to suggest NASCAR commemorative china, but diversifying with Beanie Babies is also strong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by superpop

These are mass produced fashion baubles, not an investment vehicle. If you are going to invest in anything I recommend beanie babies.

Tricolore66 · 25 July 2021, 01:06 AM

Aren’t they all?

Frankly though if it wasn’t for value threads over the past 1-2 years this place would be crickets. I can’t remember the last true watch review that was posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by donas

I wonder if there's any correlation with it being the most selectively enforced rule as well!

Calatrava r · 25 July 2021, 01:20 AM

Obviously, no one can predict specific value increase as to each reference. If the hype dies down, they will all tank as watches generally do. They are consumer items made with markups to make profits for everyone in the production and distribution chains. If they were investments Rolex would just keep all their products.

donas · 25 July 2021, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricolore66

Aren’t they all?

Frankly though if it wasn’t for value threads over the past 1-2 years this place would be crickets. I can’t remember the last true watch review that was posted.

Yes, the rule enforcement is quite sporadic and unpredictable. To your second point, crickets would be better than much of the nonsense on here now.

Bizcut1 · 25 July 2021, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tricolore66

I was going to suggest NASCAR commemorative china, but diversifying with Beanie Babies is also strong.

24 July 2021, 05:53 AM	#31
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24 July 2021, 10:48 AM	#46
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24 July 2021, 11:19 AM	#48
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24 July 2021, 11:36 AM	#50
Thebuzz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 111	Don't buy Rolex for investment, but still gotta ask.... OP Green. Unless by blue you mean turquoise. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 July 2021, 06:36 AM	#36
ndrs63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 1,101	If one can afford either of these, the price difference between the 4 when selling will me irrelevant as neither of them is scarce or hot. If money is tight, forget Rolex. So buy the one you like Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 July 2021, 07:51 AM	#39
Brny11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Brian Location: Florida Posts: 2,456	None. OP is hot now. If they discontinue then maybe for some time it will shoot up. Milgauss is also possible to have some growth as it is unique but it’s a meh watch IMO. The other two have no shot. Also I know nothing so you should assume everything I say is opposite.

24 July 2021, 08:17 AM	#40
donas Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Wade Location: TN Watch: 116619 Posts: 2,659	"(iv) THIS IS A ROLEX WATCH DISCUSSION FORUM AND NOT A PRICE OR INVESTMENT OR DISCOUNT DISCUSSION FORUM SO IF YOU HAVE A QUERY REGARDING PRICES, INVESTMENTS OR DISCOUNTS THEN MAKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL ENQUIRIES AND INVESTIGATIONS AND DO NOT POST THOSE ISSUES HERE."

24 July 2021, 08:56 AM	#42
Tricolore66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: USA Posts: 1,090	Of that list, I'd say Milgauss Z-blue. It has been made for a relatively short time, and other Milgauss models have been discontinued and it's likely the Z-Blue will be as well before too long. Vintage Milgauss's are rock solid collectibles, so it has some name power going for it. If you look at grey-market pricing for BNIB Z-Blue's they are currently nearly double the grey-market pricing of just a few years ago. This was a piece that was easily found at dealers and a 10% discount was easy to get, and cheaper than that from the greys. Today BNIB pricing seems to be hovering at around $13,500-14k. The fact that the watch has been around for years and pricing is where it is says a lot. These colorful OP's are the current Instagram darlings but I don't think we'll see the staying power.

24 July 2021, 10:14 AM	#43
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,649	This thread sucks big time!!!

24 July 2021, 11:11 AM	#47
PepsiBezel 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: USA Watch: Neo-Vintage Posts: 1,153	Historically, none of those are traditionally collectible. If the madness stops, it will stop for those. They will still hold decent value compared to watches from other brands.

24 July 2021, 11:27 AM	#49
RJRJRJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,496	OP will probably take the biggest hit once the hype dies down. The rest are not particularly hot, so I would go with none if appreciation is of concern.

25 July 2021, 12:45 AM	#53
superpop "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Freeattle, WA Watch: SD43 and SS SkyD Posts: 421	These are mass produced fashion baubles, not an investment vehicle. If you are going to invest in anything I recommend beanie babies.

25 July 2021, 01:20 AM	#56
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,595	Obviously, no one can predict specific value increase as to each reference. If the hype dies down, they will all tank as watches generally do. They are consumer items made with markups to make profits for everyone in the production and distribution chains. If they were investments Rolex would just keep all their products.

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