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Old 12 February 2010, 01:28 PM   #61
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My apologies...but can I ask a serious question?

Are people here actually considering looking into a purchase like this? As in, it would be within the realm of reality for them? If so, then I think I need to take my leave of this forum as I am grossly out of my league. I would have to take out a 30 year mortgage for something like that. I just bought a 16610LV from someone on the forum and it represents my watch budget for, well, the year (at least). If there are really people here who have that kind of money, I will feel way out of place.
For me, thats a definite hell no But some of the members of this forum have the funds to purchase a watch like that if they wanted to. If we can put as much information out there it decreases the chance that someone can fall into a trap and make a huge and costly mistake. It's the sharing of information that protects us. That's just my 2 cents
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My apologies...but can I ask a serious question?

Are people here actually considering looking into a purchase like this? As in, it would be within the realm of reality for them? If so, then I think I need to take my leave of this forum as I am grossly out of my league. I would have to take out a 30 year mortgage for something like that. I just bought a 16610LV from someone on the forum and it represents my watch budget for, well, the year (at least). If there are really people here who have that kind of money, I will feel way out of place.
There are people on this forum that can afford that I'm sure - hell there are people in THIS THREAD w/ 2-3 Patek Philippes.

That's not a reason to feel out of place though - we all have 1 thing in common - a love for watches weather it cost $10, $10,000, or $100,000.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:30 PM   #63
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My apologies...but can I ask a serious question?

Are people here actually considering looking into a purchase like this? As in, it would be within the realm of reality for them? If so, then I think I need to take my leave of this forum as I am grossly out of my league. I would have to take out a 30 year mortgage for something like that. I just bought a 16610LV from someone on the forum and it represents my watch budget for, well, the year (at least). If there are really people here who have that kind of money, I will feel way out of place.
This one is way out of my league as well, but there are probably a few here who could afford it.
There is no need to feel out of place here. Anyone who loves the brand whether they own one, two, etc...or none at all are treated the same here IMO.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:32 PM   #64
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There are people on this forum that can afford that I'm sure - hell there are people in THIS THREAD w/ 2-3 Patek Philippes.

That's not a reason to feel out of place though - we all have 1 thing in common - a love for watches weather it's $10, $10,000, or $100,000.
Yikes. Don't think I can hang with a crew who have a single watch that cost more than I make in a year. Ah well...maybe someday.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:33 PM   #65
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May not be real or for another watch. If RSC USA and probably Canada won't touch the watch, why would any RSC?
Not factual, just a question.
RSC's in other countries will work on vintage watches. USA is one of the few who will not. And based on your comment Canada is a no go as well.

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using Microsoft Word in this case. I would not need Photoshop to do an invoice.
True, but the picture does have a reference number listed. I'm sure one could call the RSC to confirm that the watch was sent in for a quote.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:33 PM   #66
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Yikes. Don't think I can hang with a crew who have a single watch that cost more than I make in a year. Ah well...maybe someday.
Dude relax, it's not that serious.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:34 PM   #67
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Yikes. Don't think I can hang with a crew who have a single watch that cost more than I make in a year. Ah well...maybe someday.
Why? Nobody here bites
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:36 PM   #68
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I am new here but it seems there are people here with 1 watch to...

...several dozen watches in all price ranges. I suspect some can buy platinum Daytonas and some SS $1000 watches. It's not about what one can afford... it's about a common interest in a precision instrument... Rolex or otherwise. Some rotate watches buying and selling. Some accumulate and collect.

I noticed doctors, bartenders, techies and all kinds of professions. No one seems to cap on any other person's watch whatever it is. Of course, if you are selling a fake watch, the entire forum will jump on you... otherwise it's a very welcoming group.

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My apologies...but can I ask a serious question?

Are people here actually considering looking into a purchase like this? As in, it would be within the realm of reality for them? If so, then I think I need to take my leave of this forum as I am grossly out of my league. I would have to take out a 30 year mortgage for something like that. I just bought a 16610LV from someone on the forum and it represents my watch budget for, well, the year (at least). If there are really people here who have that kind of money, I will feel way out of place.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:36 PM   #69
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Yikes. Don't think I can hang with a crew who have a single watch that cost more than I make in a year. Ah well...maybe someday.
You have to understand that he's looking for offers. He went for a very high amount of US $80K in order to get offers. From there he will take the highest bidder.

As some have said, this watch is in poor condition and might not sell for more than US $15K, as it looks like the watch needs close to US $4K in service work.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:38 PM   #70
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...several dozen watches in all price ranges. I suspect some can buy platinum Daytonas and some SS $1000 watches. It's not about what one can afford... it's about a common interest in a precision instrument... Rolex or otherwise. Some rotate watches buying and selling. Some accumulate and collect.

I noticed doctors, bartenders, techies and all kinds of professions. No one seems to cap on any other person's watch whatever it is. Of course, if you are selling a fake watch, the entire forum will jump on you... otherwise it's a very welcoming group.

My .02 cents.
Great post!
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:42 PM   #71
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As some have said, this watch is in poor condition and might not sell for more than US $15K, as it looks like the watch needs close to US $4K in service work.
I know that a number of folks are into vintage or rare watches, but the listed watch just looks like it's in horrendous condition; I don't care what color the font is. You'd think if the seller realized the true potential value they'd fix the watch FIRST, then recoup way more than they spent on the repairs. Just my opinion.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:44 PM   #72
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I know that a number of folks are into vintage or rare watches, but the listed watch just looks like it's in horrendous condition; I don't care what color the font is. You'd think if the seller realized the true potential value they'd fix the watch FIRST, then recoup way more than they spent on the repairs. Just my opinion.
I believe he states that he does not have the funds right now, so he is selling it in the current condition.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:45 PM   #73
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Yikes. Don't think I can hang with a crew who have a single watch that cost more than I make in a year. Ah well...maybe someday.
LOL...trust me, not everyone on here is in the same tax bracket. The one thing 99.9% of the people who frequent this forum do share in common is a serious respect for watches like Rolex coupled with the desire to help those in need of answers. When I came here, all I got was a boat load of help in identifying what I found in the basement, wrapped in an old envelope.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:45 PM   #74
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I know that a number of folks are into vintage or rare watches, but the listed watch just looks like it's in horrendous condition; I don't care what color the font is. You'd think if the seller realized the true potential value they'd fix the watch FIRST, then recoup way more than they spent on the repairs. Just my opinion.
Not to put the sellers business out there like that (but since he's said it publicly already) he said he couldn't afford to get it fixed up... so he wants to sell it as is.
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:46 PM   #75
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LOL...trust me, not everyone on here is in the same tax bracket. The one thing 99.9% of the people who frequent this forum do share in common is a serious respect for watches like Rolex coupled with the desire to help those in need of answers. When I came here, all I got was a boat load of help in identifying what I found in the basement, wrapped in an old envelope.
You don't happen to have a link tot hat thread do you? It'd be a very interesting read I think!
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:49 PM   #76
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You don't happen to have a link tot hat thread do you? It'd be a very interesting read I think!
http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=41006
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Old 12 February 2010, 01:56 PM   #78
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...several dozen watches in all price ranges. I suspect some can buy platinum Daytonas and some SS $1000 watches. It's not about what one can afford... it's about a common interest in a precision instrument... Rolex or otherwise. Some rotate watches buying and selling. Some accumulate and collect.

I noticed doctors, bartenders, techies and all kinds of professions. No one seems to cap on any other person's watch whatever it is. Of course, if you are selling a fake watch, the entire forum will jump on you... otherwise it's a very welcoming group.

My .02 cents.
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Let's give the guy a break. If you don't like the watch he is selling or don't think he is for real, then don't buy it. If you can't afford it, then don't buy it. But it seems unfair to judge him based on very limited information. I can't afford the watch, but I like to believe that he and the watch is for real and I hope someone in this forum buys it, authenticates it and has it restored.
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Old 12 February 2010, 02:02 PM   #79
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Are people here actually considering looking into a purchase like this? As in, it would be within the realm of reality for them? If so, then I think I need to take my leave of this forum as I am grossly out of my league. I would have to take out a 30 year mortgage for something like that. I just bought a 16610LV from someone on the forum and it represents my watch budget for, well, the year (at least). If there are really people here who have that kind of money, I will feel way out of place.

Remember the watch is not for wearing but for collectiing; fix it up and it will increase in value unlike a newer watch that will decrease no matter what.
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Old 12 February 2010, 02:06 PM   #80
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i think if he set a more realistic price he wouldn't get all the bashes here. the seller himself needs to have some common sense too. eg if he listed for 3K i dont think this thread would even exist.
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i think if he set a more realistic price he wouldn't get all the bashes here. the seller himself needs to have some common sense too. eg if he listed for 3K i dont think this thread would even exist.
There would probably be a thread about why it was so low.
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Old 12 February 2010, 02:21 PM   #82
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If this is a scam the seller could put Machiavelli to shame.
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Old 12 February 2010, 02:34 PM   #83
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GREAT story man... very interesting read. Any updates on it? What about some pix after the restoration?? I'm dying to see how it turned out!!!
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GREAT story man... very interesting read. Any updates on it? What about some pix after the restoration?? I'm dying to see how it turned out!!!
He doesn't have the funds to restore it - he has just received a quote to have it serviced.
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Old 12 February 2010, 02:50 PM   #85
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He doesn't have the funds to restore it - he has just received a quote to have it serviced.
He wasn't talking about the OP; slight thread jack. Very unusual on TRF.
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He wasn't talking about the OP; slight thread jack. Very unusual on TRF.
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Old 12 February 2010, 04:13 PM   #87
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Good thread.
My take: the (pros)
Assuming everything is as presented by the seller,
it is great that it is being offered for sale here at TRF.
Airline tickets for a face to face at a reputable watch specialist/restorer
seem like a great idea, especially at these numbers.
Might be a good chance for TRF member who has been waiting for such a watch.
The potential buyer would be involved, first hand in the restoration,
and could pick the restorer of his/her choice.(much like Barracuda has done)


the (cons)
I am not such a big fan of the "best offer" for sale posts.
What winds up happening is seller tends to pit members against each other.
"So and So said he would give me X amount, would you pay more?"
This goes on for days, and you never know if you have a deal, because seller says let me get back to you.
Then he works the phones with the "new" price.
Feelings get hurt and the charade drags on. I have seen it before.
That is probably why this forum has a "must post price" rule.
Throwing out a 100k obo, is kind of like circumventing the forum rules.
Man up, pick a price, and post it.
otherwise, that is what ebay is for.....
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Guys this Guy has posted on here before:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=108927


He claimed he lived in the out back some 800km in the middle of no where, but yet he gets the quote back from the RSC in 2 days?!!! looks like a scan to me not an email ie he recieved it in the post.

I made my feelings quite clear in his original post but it had to be edited by a Mod. I was glad to see the thread was locked.

I am sorry guys but I will stick by with what I originally thought and that is this is a SCAM. It gave all the tell tale signs of a scam and I am shocked he is going for round 2.

Not hard to photoshop an RSC invoice, all his online credentials that he posted were bogus and could have been set up in 5 mins. If this were truly real/genuine he would have got an auction house involved.

I hope this post wont be edited again, I think any potential buyer should tread with extreme caution on this one.
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Crazy

A perfect DRSD MKIV is on VRF now for 22900 euro, from one of the most reputable sellers around.

Why on earth buy a completely to be restored for this amount or even half of this amount.
It has to go to Bob Ridley because Rolex wants to change to many parts that will take the originality away from the watch.

After a complete Bob Ridley service the watch will fetch around 25000 euro at max, and that includes a new bracelet.

The seller will not fetch more than 25000 A$ , that around 16250 euro or 22000 US$.

I guess a real collector will take a flight, a loupe, a wireless laptop and 17500 euro and come back with it.

And I hope the seller will be smart and sell it because those 2nd chanches won't come around easy.

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There are several members here that might consider buying it ( You would only have to check the "potential" ones that have read the sellers post ) but they will not post anything themselves . None of them will pay the AUD100 K let loose by the seller's OP that is for sure , only a fraction of that . Pretty sure they will want to inspect it before letting go of any of their dough and I doubt very much that it will be serviced by any RSC .
Now we mention RSC . I had a look at the invoice / estimate : They propose to replace the case back , which I find in remarkable good condition , but not the glass ?
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