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Old 9 November 2011, 10:14 AM   #61
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good email Cru, look forward to hearing the response... is that positive enough for you
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Old 9 November 2011, 10:17 AM   #62
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will Panerai reduce the price of all this watches under $1000 in order to redeem his error? I think people still buy Panerais for under $1000, the outside details are fine.
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Old 9 November 2011, 12:31 PM   #63
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FWIW......i just sent this e-mail to the powers that be.....not that i really believe they read their e-mails, but, it made me feel better.


To: products@panerai.com
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Dear Sir or Madam,

I am an avid follower of Panerai, its history, its design ethos, its community, its burgeoning in-house manufacture, and I am a proud owner of a 164 purchased new in April of this year.

My growing affection for the brand found me visiting the boutique in Paris to expand my collection by adding a Radiomir, in particular the 338 or 346.

However, I have put this endeavour on hold due to the recent revelation concerning the 318 and its movement, which has been the subject of great conversation among collectors both on and off the Internet. I am of the opinion that the unfinished movement represents, at best, a horrific lapse in quality control, and, at worst, a cynical rip-off by Panerai of its avid collectors. The movement shows a complete lack of pride in the brand and complete disrespect for the consumer, and it has affected my impression of all other products offered by Panerai. Indeed, I find it difficult to enjoy my current 164 knowing what the brand apparently stands for.

I simply cannot, in good conscience, purchase another Panerai without the situation being rectified by Richemont. I hope that this situation will be addressed and this "black eye" removed from the Panerai world.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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Hey Cru please send them another email that we are waiting for their response from Rolexforums
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Old 9 November 2011, 01:10 PM   #64
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Didn't you already make a post regarding the same issue????

We get it, you want the movement to say Panerai. You made your point in the last post, must we keep reading the same thing.

I for one don't think it is that big of a deal,but for some, their panties are all bunched up. Look at the 3135, it is a time proven reliable movement, but it is not easy on the eyes. It is a ugly movement but it is reliable, much like the movement in the 318. I do agree that Panerai should have finished it, but what's done is done, who cares.

The 318 is a tool watch IMHO, just like the sub, the movement does not have to be pretty just reliable and easy to service.
The Rolex 3135 is an in house movement and while it is not finished to the level of a Patek or Vacheron, it is finished nicely with Geneva waves, perlage, beveled edges, polished screws and they're rightfully proud to put their name on it, none of which is found on the "exclusive OP XXIX" used in the PAM 318.
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Old 11 November 2011, 04:43 PM   #65
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Latest update.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...of+Sig.+Bonati......

Panerai is now offering all owners the ability to swap the movement. Not sure what movement though.
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Old 11 November 2011, 06:56 PM   #66
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Latest update.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...of+Sig.+Bonati......

Panerai is now offering all owners the ability to swap the movement. Not sure what movement though.
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Old 11 November 2011, 06:59 PM   #67
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If this the quality of workmanship, then I am not buying a Panerai!
That's why I am selling
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Old 11 November 2011, 11:04 PM   #68
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That's why I am selling
Whatcha got?
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Old 11 November 2011, 11:58 PM   #69
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That's why I am selling
Whoa Chris - I can't believe my eyes... Am I still dreaming?
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Old 12 November 2011, 01:26 AM   #70
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Whoa Chris - I can't believe my eyes... Am I still dreaming?
I was thinking the same...
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Old 12 November 2011, 01:44 AM   #71
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Great Cru! Would be interesting to see the response.
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Old 12 November 2011, 02:19 AM   #72
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That's why I am selling
Here is a quickly written sales ad you can use for this weekend.

All Must Go This Weekend
or I throw what is left in the river on Monday morning.


No prices refused, all PAMS have to go, they and I cannot live under the same roof anymore. I can no longer live in this city with people knowing I was once a Paneristi and I have to get rid of all of this scourge this weekend. I will change my name and use the proceeds from these PAM sales to have reconstructive plastic surgery so I will never be recognized for the person that Panerai made me.
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Old 15 November 2011, 06:52 PM   #73
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Great Cru! Would be interesting to see the response.
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Cru, a nice attempt with the mail but there is absolutely zero chance that Panerai/Richemont will answer an email like that.
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Now if he had cc'ed every watch magazine email addy he could get his hands then it might be another story, maybe or the panerai execs could just sit back drinking brandy and smoking cigars and laughing about how it took 3 years after the watch was issued for the masses to notice the non-engraved movement.
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would love to see the response (if any!), but i wont hold my breath for it.
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Nice one Cru..would love to see what type of answers you get but I am with Patrick, they will not respond.
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good email Cru, look forward to hearing the response... is that positive enough for you
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sorry to bring this back to the top, but, just to follow up, i received the following e-mail from officinepanerai@panerai.com in response to my e-mail:
"Please provide us with your phone number and best time to call you and you will be contacted as soon as possible from our corporate office with explanation."
i gave them my number yesterday and will let y'all know if i hear anything.

say what you will about what happened, but, it seems like OP is taking it seriously.
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Old 15 November 2011, 07:13 PM   #74
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sorry to bring this back to the top, but, just to follow up, i received the following e-mail from officinepanerai@panerai.com in response to my e-mail:
"Please provide us with your phone number and best time to call you and you will be contacted as soon as possible from our corporate office with explanation."
i gave them my number yesterday and will let y'all know if i hear anything.

say what you will about what happened, but, it seems like OP is taking it seriously.
Looking forward to your post on this!

Ask them if they were trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge?
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Old 18 November 2011, 01:47 PM   #75
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that is awful and shame on panerai for trying to pull a fast one. Great to see that panerai is replacing the movements free of change. I have been there done that with pams, cool watch but seems very common in my city. I was at a wedding and counted 8 pams!
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Old 18 November 2011, 05:05 PM   #76
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Looking forward to your post on this!

Ask them if they were trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge?
"trying"? I believe they already did, 500 pcs of it
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Old 30 September 2013, 01:46 PM   #77
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Didn't you already make a post regarding the same issue????

We get it, you want the movement to say Panerai. You made your point in the last post, must we keep reading the same thing.

I for one don't think it is that big of a deal,but for some, their panties are all bunched up. Look at the 3135, it is a time proven reliable movement, but it is not easy on the eyes. It is a ugly movement but it is reliable, much like the movement in the 318. I do agree that Panerai should have finished it, but what's done is done, who cares.

The 318 is a tool watch IMHO, just like the sub, the movement does not have to be pretty just reliable and easy to service.

Wow, comparing the 3135 to the 318 movement is pushing it very far from my point of view, the 3135 may not be the most beautiful movement, no decorations, simple, but it is very well finished, not like the one of the 318 which looks like a cheap chinese fake...
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Old 30 September 2013, 05:51 PM   #78
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sorry to bring this back to the top, but, just to follow up, i received the following e-mail from officinepanerai@panerai.com in response to my e-mail:
"Please provide us with your phone number and best time to call you and you will be contacted as soon as possible from our corporate office with explanation."
i gave them my number yesterday and will let y'all know if i hear anything.

say what you will about what happened, but, it seems like OP is taking it seriously.


this thread is a blast from the past.

to follow up on my post above, yes, OP sent that email, but, no, OP never actually called me as they said they would.

oh well, the 318 is water under the (brooklyn) bridge, IMO. everyone makes mistakes.

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Old 1 October 2013, 01:30 AM   #79
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I even wanted a 318 after this
Call me crazy but at least it is Original
They'll never dare this again

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