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doramas · 21 March 2017, 01:49 AM

Is the 15202st ideal for daily use? Is the 2121 caliber reliable to use daily? It's 50 meters, but does it have a screw-down crown?

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Naples09 · 21 March 2017, 01:52 AM

Depends what you do every day. Working at the office, sure it would be a great selection.

doramas · 21 March 2017, 02:16 AM

Do you have a screw-down crown?

GB-man · 21 March 2017, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by doramas

Do you have a screw-down crown?

No.

doramas · 21 March 2017, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

No.

DISCARDED.

Thanks

doramas · 21 March 2017, 02:24 AM

Does the Nautilus 5711 have a thread in the crown?

Xerxes77 · 21 March 2017, 02:24 AM

No

GB-man · 21 March 2017, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by doramas

Does the Nautilus 5711 have a thread in the crown?

Yes. General rule of thumb 5711 = carefree swimming. 15202 light swimming.

doramas · 21 March 2017, 02:30 AM

Very well for the Nautilus.
They should rectify in the Royal Oak
Thanks

Defiancekofb · 21 March 2017, 03:48 AM

15400 screw down crown, 15202 no screw down crown, 5711 screw down crown.

doramas · 21 March 2017, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

15400 screw down crown, 15202 no screw down crown, 5711 screw down crown.

15400 it crowns to coil.?
thanks

doramas · 21 March 2017, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

15400 screw down crown, 15202 no screw down crown, 5711 screw down crown.

15400 screw down crown?
thanks

Sammk · 21 March 2017, 06:18 AM

Yes

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Originally Posted by doramas

15400 screw down crown?
thanks

GB-man · 21 March 2017, 06:20 AM

The 15202 does not have a screw down crown because the original royal oak did not have a screw down crown. That said, I agree and would much prefer AP included one.

Chute · 21 March 2017, 11:50 AM

15300, 15400, 5167, 5711, almost every Rolex: screw down crown

15202, no screw down crown

doramas · 21 March 2017, 03:17 PM

Thanks

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Token74 · 22 March 2017, 06:58 AM

What about the 15450?

ChrisInCharlotte · 22 March 2017, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Token74

What about the 15450?

Yes, 15450 is a screw-down

SMD · 22 March 2017, 08:04 AM

Serious question. Does the screw down crown make a difference when it comes to water resistance? If two watches are rated 5 atm but one has a screw down crown and one does not is there a practical difference? I understand the "feeling" that a screw down crown provides peace of mind, but if both rated equally does it make a real world difference?

Defiancekofb · 22 March 2017, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SMD

Serious question. Does the screw down crown make a difference when it comes to water resistance? If two watches are rated 5 atm but one has a screw down crown and one does not is there a practical difference? I understand the "feeling" that a screw down crown provides peace of mind, but if both rated equally does it make a real world difference?

Yes it makes a world of difference, you can mistakenly pull out the crown on a non-screw down crown watch underwater, therefore flooding the movement with water. I have previously had a Bell & Ross which does not have screw down crowns and this has never happen, but then again a 15202 is $20k+ timepiece, I would not want to risk damage to the JLC movement.

Chute · 22 March 2017, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

Yes it makes a world of difference, you can mistakenly pull out the crown on a non-screw down crown watch underwater, therefore flooding the movement with water. I have previously had a Bell & Ross which does not have screw down crowns and this has never happen, but then again a 15202 is $20k+ timepiece, I would not want to risk damage to the JLC movement.

Agreed. A vintage car with no seat belts is just as safe as a new car with air bags as long as you never have an accident.

GB-man · 22 March 2017, 02:15 PM

Padi claims he knows of a diver that went down some 20m with his Daytona pushers unscrewed. I gather for casual pool wading it's more of a safeguard. One that I require. I don't need anxiety of making a 5k mistake while I'm swimming

Will1979 · 22 March 2017, 02:15 PM

Ha. Great analogy.

Defiancekofb · 22 March 2017, 09:05 PM

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Agreed. A vintage car with no seat belts is just as safe as a new car with air bags as long as you never have an accident.

tcheeco · 22 March 2017, 09:24 PM

There's somebody who swim with a 15202???

SMD · 23 March 2017, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

Yes it makes a world of difference, you can mistakenly pull out the crown on a non-screw down crown watch underwater, therefore flooding the movement with water. I have previously had a Bell & Ross which does not have screw down crowns and this has never happen, but then again a 15202 is $20k+ timepiece, I would not want to risk damage to the JLC movement.

But unless I am mistaken, water resistance is not solely dependent upon whether the crown is screwed down or not. The seals within the crown tube and the case provide the protection for the movement, not really the crown. Which is why I asked the question. For example, and yes I know it is not directly comparable, but the water resistance for a sub does not depend upon whether the crown is screwed down or not. What I don't know is how the movement for the 15202 is sealed. I don't think it's as simple as screw down crown okay to swim, no screw down crown you cannot swim, when both have the same water resistance rating.

mrenvy · 24 March 2017, 11:41 PM

You better wear it daily if you don't want to set the date every time the watch stops.

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Watcheroo · 25 March 2017, 12:01 AM

Got mine as a daily and love it. Works for most occasions on land extremely well

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21 March 2017, 01:49 AM	#1
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21 March 2017, 01:52 AM	#2
Naples09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Jim Location: Naples, FL Posts: 1,795	Depends what you do every day. Working at the office, sure it would be a great selection.

21 March 2017, 02:16 AM	#3
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Do you have a screw-down crown?

21 March 2017, 02:24 AM	#6
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Does the Nautilus 5711 have a thread in the crown?

21 March 2017, 02:24 AM	#7
Xerxes77 Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Home! Posts: 3,307	No

21 March 2017, 02:30 AM	#9
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Very well for the Nautilus. They should rectify in the Royal Oak Thanks

21 March 2017, 03:48 AM	#10
Defiancekofb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,999	15400 screw down crown, 15202 no screw down crown, 5711 screw down crown.

21 March 2017, 06:20 AM	#14
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,860	The 15202 does not have a screw down crown because the original royal oak did not have a screw down crown. That said, I agree and would much prefer AP included one.

21 March 2017, 11:50 AM	#15
Chute "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Austin Watch: 6 digit Rolex+APRO Posts: 1,533	15300, 15400, 5167, 5711, almost every Rolex: screw down crown 15202, no screw down crown

21 March 2017, 03:17 PM	#16
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Thanks Enviado desde mi SM-G930F mediante Tapatalk

22 March 2017, 08:04 AM	#19
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,660	Serious question. Does the screw down crown make a difference when it comes to water resistance? If two watches are rated 5 atm but one has a screw down crown and one does not is there a practical difference? I understand the "feeling" that a screw down crown provides peace of mind, but if both rated equally does it make a real world difference?

22 March 2017, 02:15 PM	#22
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,860	Padi claims he knows of a diver that went down some 20m with his Daytona pushers unscrewed. I gather for casual pool wading it's more of a safeguard. One that I require. I don't need anxiety of making a 5k mistake while I'm swimming

22 March 2017, 02:15 PM	#23
Will1979 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Chicago Posts: 143	Ha. Great analogy.

22 March 2017, 09:24 PM	#25
tcheeco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: EU Watch: AP & Rolex Posts: 1,274	There's somebody who swim with a 15202???

24 March 2017, 11:41 PM	#27
mrenvy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 294	You better wear it daily if you don't want to set the date every time the watch stops. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Watcheroo 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: CT Posts: 3,912	Got mine as a daily and love it. Works for most occasions on land extremely well Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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