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Old 23 February 2018, 03:48 AM   #31
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OP, you have Fink's jewelers in Charlottesville. Personally I would take the watch there for authentication and an assessment of value.
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Old 23 February 2018, 03:51 AM   #32
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Is the cyclops usually that large on a ladies DJ?

Just looks way to large for that sized watch.
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Old 23 February 2018, 03:52 AM   #33
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The dial is fake and the bezel insert is most likely aftermarket and not up to the quality of a Rolex version.

You could consider sending the watch to Rolex to see how much they'd charge to bring the watch back to original standard, but I'd imagine that it would cost a fair percentage of what your sister could get for it in its original-standards version.
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Old 23 February 2018, 04:45 AM   #34
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Is the cyclops usually that large on a ladies DJ?

Just looks way to large for that sized watch.
No. Likely an aftermarket crystal. Looks horrible.
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Old 23 February 2018, 05:18 AM   #35
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Am I right that Rolex never stamps a clasp with both 750 and 18K?
Never saw that before on a genuine bracelet.
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Old 23 February 2018, 05:27 AM   #36
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Am I right that Rolex never stamps a clasp with both 750 and 18K?
Never saw that before on a genuine bracelet.
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Old 23 February 2018, 05:28 AM   #37
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Old 23 February 2018, 05:30 AM   #38
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I see no hallmark stamped on the OP's bracelet clasp blade.
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Old 23 February 2018, 05:33 AM   #39
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I see what you mean.
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Old 23 February 2018, 05:35 AM   #40
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I noticed that as well.
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Old 23 February 2018, 05:51 AM   #41
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It's a real Rolex .. As others have said though, the bezel and dial are aftermarket which takes away from the appearance the watch should originally have. I'd be careful though because if it has a aftermarket dial and bezel, it may also have other non factory parts. Can you remove the bracelet and post pics of numbers stamped between the lugs at the 6 and 12 o clock?
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Old 23 February 2018, 06:04 AM   #42
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You have been told more than once the watch is not genuine. Rolex does not make shoddy looking junk like the watch in your image. If you are so sure it is genuine, find the nearest Rolex authorized dealer in your home town and take the watch there to have it authenticated. You will have an answer there very quickly. My2C

At best the watch is a Franken with many fake parts.
I will do exactly that and thank you!! I'm surprised the guy in NY would not have mentioned that to her. The bezel was replaced and said that in the original classified ad.
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Old 23 February 2018, 06:06 AM   #43
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Old 23 February 2018, 06:08 AM   #44
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Have you checked between the lugs yet?
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Old 23 February 2018, 06:08 AM   #45
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While we're at it, I'd like to sell my sister's Beetle. Oh, shut the front door.
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Old 23 February 2018, 06:09 AM   #46
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OP, you have Fink's jewelers in Charlottesville. Personally I would take the watch there for authentication and an assessment of value.
YES!!!! My new granddaughter lives there and just the excuse i need! thanks!
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Old 23 February 2018, 06:15 AM   #47
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Old 23 February 2018, 06:29 AM   #48
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Sorry, have an appt coming in five. Will do it after I'm done.
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Old 23 February 2018, 07:25 AM   #49
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While Tom finishes his appointment, and then checks between the lugs, maybe a recap?
  1. Multiple FS listings of this watch on TRF get lifted by the Modes after members express concerns about its authenticity.
  2. Tom tried to get advice about what he was "doing wrong".
  3. Now we have a good discussion in a safe zone with Mod reviewing the thread.
  4. Many notice this and that from the pictures; the net-net being that nothing seems to be authentic (except the midcase perhaps).

So, unless Tom can get a peek at the movement, the entire thing may be faux Rolex.

Would you agree the Mods did the right thing to avoid an unsuspecting buyer getting tangled up in a matter that could boomerang on TRF's reputation?
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While Tom finishes his appointment, and then checks between the lugs, maybe a recap?
  1. Multiple FS listings of this watch on TRF get lifted by the Modes after members express concerns about its authenticity.
  2. Tom tried to get advice about what he was "doing wrong".
  3. Now we have a good discussion in a safe zone with Mod reviewing the thread.
  4. Many notice this and that from the pictures; the net-net being that nothing seems to be authentic (except the midcase perhaps).

So, unless Tom can get a peek at the movement, the entire thing may be faux Rolex.

Would you agree the Mods did the right thing to avoid an unsuspecting buyer getting tangled up in a matter that could boomerang on TRF's reputation?
Absolutely .. Someone not understanding the headaches of buying a watch with aftermarket parts can certainly be a disaster. A bezel, dial and clasp is one thing which can be fixed easily. If the actual movement has non original parts, then the watch is no longer a Rolex.
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Old 23 February 2018, 08:15 AM   #51
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The dial has the Rolex name and logo so it is not 'aftermarket', it is fake.
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Old 23 February 2018, 08:16 AM   #52
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While Tom finishes his appointment, and then checks between the lugs, maybe a recap?
  1. Multiple FS listings of this watch on TRF get lifted by the Modes after members express concerns about its authenticity.
  2. Tom tried to get advice about what he was "doing wrong".
  3. Now we have a good discussion in a safe zone with Mod reviewing the thread.
  4. Many notice this and that from the pictures; the net-net being that nothing seems to be authentic (except the midcase perhaps).

So, unless Tom can get a peek at the movement, the entire thing may be faux Rolex.

Would you agree the Mods did the right thing to avoid an unsuspecting buyer getting tangled up in a matter that could boomerang on TRF's reputation?
Thanks Paul.
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Old 23 February 2018, 09:09 AM   #53
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The watch looks real to me except the dial and bezel are fake or aftermarket.

The serial # is between the lugs.

Ok, back for about 40 minutes (it's 1808 EST right now)

Mmm, I'm guessing I have to take the watchband off to find the serial number?
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One more thought...

I do plan to go to C'ville tomorrow to have it appraised. Guessing it will be a couple days before I get it back. I had this bad thought. What if my sister's ex DID give her a fake Rolex? Except I do have the appraisal from 1990 for $15K. She also had a "makeover" in the 90's from a Rolex dealer. So, we're talking twenty plus. I wonder if there was some kind of "bait and switch" that happened then?

Normally, I would be really intrigued with this thread...if I weren't on the receiving end.
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I do plan to go to C'ville tomorrow to have it appraised. Guessing it will be a couple days before I get it back. I had this bad thought. What if my sister's ex DID give her a fake Rolex? Except I do have the appraisal from 1990 for $15K. She also had a "makeover" in the 90's from a Rolex dealer. So, we're talking twenty plus. I wonder if there was some kind of "bait and switch" that happened then?

Normally, I would be really intrigued with this thread...if I weren't on the receiving end.
I’m guessing that one of those overhauls added the fake diamond dial and bezel. If everything else is authentic, and you declare the aftermarket bits in your sale ad, ebay may be a good option for this sale. Modifications like these are common there.
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Guys, gave up trying to take the band off. Scared to death I'll scratch it. So, when it goes to the dealer tomorrow I'll have him take off the band and then I'll take a picture of the serial number. Ugh. No offense, but I hope you all are wrong and my sister's watch is legit. Not looking good. "Hi Barb, how are you? Say, I have some good news and bad news. The good news is I sold your Rolex. The bad news is I got twenty bucks for it."
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While Tom finishes his appointment, and then checks between the lugs, maybe a recap?
  1. Multiple FS listings of this watch on TRF get lifted by the Modes after members express concerns about its authenticity.
  2. Tom tried to get advice about what he was "doing wrong".
  3. Now we have a good discussion in a safe zone with Mod reviewing the thread.
  4. Many notice this and that from the pictures; the net-net being that nothing seems to be authentic (except the midcase perhaps).

So, unless Tom can get a peek at the movement, the entire thing may be faux Rolex.

Would you agree the Mods did the right thing to avoid an unsuspecting buyer getting tangled up in a matter that could boomerang on TRF's reputation?
Very, very well said Paul.
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Can you please post a photo of the back of the watch, would like to see clearly the lugs.

Dial and Bezel are not Rolex original, date window looks strange too. But you mentioned it was serviced, so movement and case may be genuine, a photo showin the back lugs would help us (well me anyway) decide

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Can you please post a photo of the back of the watch, would like to see clearly the lugs.

Dial and Bezel are not Rolex original, date window looks strange too. But you mentioned it was serviced, so movement and case may be genuine, a photo showin the back lugs would help us (well me anyway) decide

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Also there appears to be NO hallmark on the bracelet clasp blade!! There should be correct?
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